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Old 10th Jan 2008, 20:45
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The curve of that coaming and the canopy jettison bar look familiar after 850 hours in a Slingsby Venture but the instrument fit doesn't, so is it a Motor Falke?
Not a clue about the airfield though.
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Strictly speaking a Motor Falke was the original shoulder wing two-stroke Scheibe motor glider trainer. Very close though.
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Is that a runway plus ORP I see or a very wide runway?

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Ahead is a wide grass area with a narrower grass runway in it. It still has no hard runway.

The type was manufactured (licence build) in the North of England.
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Why is the passenger on the left? It doesn't look very helo-like.

Scrabbling for a clue, really.
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If I recall correctly (it was 33 years ago) the headset mic socket in the LH seat had gone u/s and I could reach everything I needed to from either seat.

The similarity to the Venture is not coincidental, although there are quite significant differences.
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 15:44
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My feeling is that wz662 was thinking of the Slingsby T61 which has been know in some places by the name Motorfalke (here for instance ).

It is the license-built Scheibe SF25-B ("B-Falke", low wing configuration), in a "civilian" version, the Venture being the Air Cadet version. AFAIK, the main differences are the engine and wing spar.

Fitter2's mention of the Motorfalke was refering to the original Scheibe SF25-A
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The Slingsby T61 is a licence built Scheibe Falke SF25B. As indicated in my post last night the manufacturers never referred to the Falke as a Motorfalke, as this was the Scheibe's designation for the original (grossly underpowered but fun to fly in a masochistic sort of way) different aircraft entirely.

The T61 had the same wing as the German version, Slingsby built a carbon sparred variant for the ATC, and fitted a more powerful engine.

The picture was indeed taken from a T61C (G-BAMB) on approach to Sywell for the 1975 PFA Rally. The aircraft pictured on the incivil beast's link is by coincidence G-BAMB.

If the incivil beast feels generous he may let WZ662 carry on? Over to you.
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I have nothing to post so I hand the baton to the incivilbeast.
As for the passenger being in the left seat after nearly 30 years as an instructor I'm happy on the right, so much so that sitting on the left just feels wrong.
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I had no intention whatsoever to steal wz662's victory which I explicitely acknowledegd in my post.

However, as I do have pictures ready, I'll be happy to take over the baton, thanks wz662

Here is the next what cockpit :



I'll have a rather busy morning tomorrow, and shall be unable to provide any answers, clues or comments before noon or so.

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TBM 700?

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Old 12th Jan 2008, 07:50
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Strictly speaking, not the TBM 700, but you are very very close.
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the Incivil Beast's challenge

The TBM-850, then. Same panel, with the addition of a flap switch position to disable the torque limiter.

If correct, let Cubs2Jets have the next challenge.
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Old 12th Jan 2008, 12:39
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Very kind of you ozbeowulf!

This one will go quick.



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it is indeed the TBM-850, same aiframe as the -700, with increased power (more than 300 kts @FL300 ISA)
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C2J

As you say it will go quick, certainly off the ground. Please check PMs
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Old 12th Jan 2008, 13:22
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Mel,

Thanks for the PM.

Let this one play out or I do have another to post...

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Most certainly let it play .
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DH Dove perhaps?
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Not a DH Dove.

Don't mis-interpert the DH on the rudder pedals!

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