What Cockpit? MK VI
Vaguely reminiscent of the dear old DC-8. Must be a really early one if it is, but I'm sure that nosewheel steering (with the park brake set into the middle?) is very familiar.
Haven't had a gander at the list of done types though and can't believe the Diesel hasn't featured already.
Cheers,
BSD.
Haven't had a gander at the list of done types though and can't believe the Diesel hasn't featured already.
Cheers,
BSD.
can't believe the Diesel hasn't featured already.
Not sure if it is an early mock-up, but it certainly is seen in an article for Douglas DC-8, with the caption...
Aging Flight Deck. The technology of flight decks in the 1950s was along way from modern aircraft, with simple dials and switches and no screens.
Cheers.
As you say, a really early one. Such a magnificent machine, can't believe it had been overlooked.
Just been trying to post a picture of a unique cockpit I took on my I-phone recently but so far failing.
Will review the posting guidance, but in the meantime off early am on a trip for 5 days.
Please may I declare it OH at the moment, promising to post something soon.
Cheers all,
BSD.
Just been trying to post a picture of a unique cockpit I took on my I-phone recently but so far failing.
Will review the posting guidance, but in the meantime off early am on a trip for 5 days.
Please may I declare it OH at the moment, promising to post something soon.
Cheers all,
BSD.
TheIC,
A very interesting challenge. Based on the throttle quadrant, I'm assuming piston-single. The instrument panel is very odd, particularly the location of the T&B indicator, so possibly a prototype or a development "hack".
I thought there was something vaguely "Hawkerish" about the cockpit, but after looking at the Tempest and Typhoon cockpits, I can see, as they say in these parts "same same, but different".
So one shot in the dark would be one of the Tornado prototypes.
Alternatively, I'm intrigued by the digital counter in your second picture. Could this be a target tug?
A very interesting challenge. Based on the throttle quadrant, I'm assuming piston-single. The instrument panel is very odd, particularly the location of the T&B indicator, so possibly a prototype or a development "hack".
I thought there was something vaguely "Hawkerish" about the cockpit, but after looking at the Tempest and Typhoon cockpits, I can see, as they say in these parts "same same, but different".
So one shot in the dark would be one of the Tornado prototypes.
Alternatively, I'm intrigued by the digital counter in your second picture. Could this be a target tug?
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Thank you, I hope so...
I'm afraid that shot would be wide of the mark. This was not a Hawker product.
Me too, I had a vague thought it might be something as mundane as a daring way to show fuel quantity, though there is another possibility specific to the type which I haven't been able to find anything on.
Nope, not a target tug I'm afraid.
A very interesting challenge
one shot in the dark would be one of the Tornado prototypes
I'm intrigued by the digital counter in your second picture
Could this be a target tug?
Particularly in the second shot it looks like a very high shouldered wing - which is almost level with cockpit?
Like a Barracuda...?
Or a Miles Master?...
British?
Is it new to Mel's list mate?
Like a Barracuda...?
Or a Miles Master?...
British?
Is it new to Mel's list mate?
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This is a two seater? I can't see that these are the same cockpits?
The lower fuselage shape looks odd to me, the frames look as if it is a concave chine meeting at a keel, a la flying boat. Or, on second thoughts, one side of a bifurcated jet inlet?
The profile of the exterior is odd too, blended into the fuselage in a way that doesn't suggest piston technology. The fuselage seems to be sitting very "deep" in the rest of the structure. Flush riveted. It has a gun.
Early jet?
The lower fuselage shape looks odd to me, the frames look as if it is a concave chine meeting at a keel, a la flying boat. Or, on second thoughts, one side of a bifurcated jet inlet?
The profile of the exterior is odd too, blended into the fuselage in a way that doesn't suggest piston technology. The fuselage seems to be sitting very "deep" in the rest of the structure. Flush riveted. It has a gun.
Early jet?
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I'm glad we're moving along... Things were quiet on this one for a while...
Noyade,
I would say that this is a high-wing machine, though 'shoulder wing' might well be apt. It is not a Barracuda nor a Miles Master, though.
Yes.
AB,
I'm afraid not.
No, it does not.
Noyade,
Particularly in the second shot it looks like a very high shouldered wing
Is it new to Mel's list mate?
AB,
This is a two seater?
It has a gun.
SARO A-1 fighter TG263...?
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Sycamore, well done! I'm astonished this hasn't featured before, though the difficulty which had to be overcome in getting decent photos may be a reason (high ISO, long zoom, big flash to get images from the balcony above where it is exhibited).
Agaricus B was incredibly astute in identifying not only that
but also
both of which were spot on! Good skills.
This aircraft, according to wikipedia Saunders-Roe SR.A/1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was the first aircraft to be fitted with production Martin Baker ejection seats. I'm a little sorry this didn't run slightly longer, but I hope it was enjoyed all the same.
The throttles, by the way, are to starboard, and it had four guns, not 'a gun'. Please forgive my pedantry. The mechanical counters may have been associated with its mooring system, operable from the cockpit, but that's only a hunch.
Agaricus B was incredibly astute in identifying not only that
the frames look as if it is a concave chine meeting at a keel, a la flying boat
on second thoughts, one side of a bifurcated jet inlet
This aircraft, according to wikipedia Saunders-Roe SR.A/1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was the first aircraft to be fitted with production Martin Baker ejection seats. I'm a little sorry this didn't run slightly longer, but I hope it was enjoyed all the same.
The throttles, by the way, are to starboard, and it had four guns, not 'a gun'. Please forgive my pedantry. The mechanical counters may have been associated with its mooring system, operable from the cockpit, but that's only a hunch.
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The canopy looked a bit `solid` which appears as a `feature on a lot of early post-war British jets`..A-B hint was helpful and I would defer to him ,or Open House..
TheIC,
An excellent challenge. Looking it up after the fact, I see that one of the Beryls from the prototype was used by Donald Campbell in Bluebird K7 for his water-speed records. How appropriate.
I thought Bluebird had always had an Orpheus, but I see now that that was a retrofit for his fatal attempt in 1966.
An excellent challenge. Looking it up after the fact, I see that one of the Beryls from the prototype was used by Donald Campbell in Bluebird K7 for his water-speed records. How appropriate.
I thought Bluebird had always had an Orpheus, but I see now that that was a retrofit for his fatal attempt in 1966.
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Thanks sycamore, but I have nowt so open house as you suggest.
Four guns indeed! Hurrumph!
And to think I considered boats, then the A1 but didn't even bother looking as I knew it had a bubble canopy and this didn't look at all like one! Though I have to say I don't think I'd have got it as the pics I've found of it don't show enough detail of the canopy.
And right and wrong on the flying boat deduction at the same time but for the wrong reasons! Ah well, a satisfying miss!
That's what makes this thread such fun.
Four guns indeed! Hurrumph!
And to think I considered boats, then the A1 but didn't even bother looking as I knew it had a bubble canopy and this didn't look at all like one! Though I have to say I don't think I'd have got it as the pics I've found of it don't show enough detail of the canopy.
And right and wrong on the flying boat deduction at the same time but for the wrong reasons! Ah well, a satisfying miss!
That's what makes this thread such fun.
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British twin engined, single seater, 1935-1945-ish, not the Whirlwind or Welkin as far as I can see. Boulton Paul P88- designed to the same spec.
No scratch that- it was canceled within a few months of contract. The Vickers Type 432 was built and flew.
No scratch that- it was canceled within a few months of contract. The Vickers Type 432 was built and flew.
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