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Evening Graeme,
Sycamore did say "gotta fly tomorrow...I`m sure Graeme will pick it up to continue... ".
Thanks mate, Im looking for someting suitable and will post it soon.
Great first Challenge sycamore
(although would have appreciated a hint that there's no cockpit photo on the web 'twould have saved a lot of time trawling in vain) 
Sycamore did say "gotta fly tomorrow...I`m sure Graeme will pick it up to continue... ".
Thanks mate, Im looking for someting suitable and will post it soon.
Great first Challenge sycamore
(although would have appreciated a hint that there's no cockpit photo on the web 'twould have saved a lot of time trawling in vain)
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Apologies for the delay, evry time I found what looked like a good one, it was on the list as is or by an alias, I hope this one's OK, there could be a couple of correct answers but neither on list (including possible typos I think)!!
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Graeme wrote:-
Unfortunately access to the original posting is not possible but I can tell you that Jabberwok posted the original challenge which was identified by sycamore. Here is another photograph of the Granger Archaeopteryx cockpit:-
Trevor's challenge is I believe the Stitts SA-3A Playboy
Mel
Odd thing is it's on Mel's list? I wonder what image the challenger used in 2006?
Trevor's challenge is I believe the Stitts SA-3A Playboy
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Good evening Mel,
Thanks for that photo, I did look in the Archives for the What Cockpit? thread, but some of the images have been lost including jabberwok's, I assume that sycamore maybe took the photo when he flew it at Old Warden a few years ago. I hope he'll tell us, the lucky bugger
Hmm, now that is another challenge for me, I have had a quick look and can see how you have reached that conclusion, but I think that if it was, you'd be able to see the Playboy's prominent wing struts!
Therefore, I will say at the moment that it's not the Stits Playboy, but I will take another look
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The oiginal I used was bigger than the one posted, but was in monochrome and appears to be exactly the same as the colour image that my quick goggle search on your answer revealed!!
Digging deeper, "my image" is accompanied by a three quarter rear view of what is clearly the same aeroplane and it's not a Stits, however, even that carries an incorrect registration
, but this is pointed out and matches my other source!
Thanks for that photo, I did look in the Archives for the What Cockpit? thread, but some of the images have been lost including jabberwok's, I assume that sycamore maybe took the photo when he flew it at Old Warden a few years ago. I hope he'll tell us, the lucky bugger
Trevor's challenge is I believe the Stitts SA-3A Playboy
Therefore, I will say at the moment that it's not the Stits Playboy, but I will take another look
Edit:
The oiginal I used was bigger than the one posted, but was in monochrome and appears to be exactly the same as the colour image that my quick goggle search on your answer revealed!!
Digging deeper, "my image" is accompanied by a three quarter rear view of what is clearly the same aeroplane and it's not a Stits, however, even that carries an incorrect registration
, but this is pointed out and matches my other source!
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Hi Guys, thanks to Graeme for hosting the pics,and Trevor for perseverance...
reference `pink cheeks`;;;when you were very young I assume your favourite Aunt/Granny would pinch you on your rosy cheeks and say` proper little Cherub` isn`t he...
The reference to more delicate fabric was that the Granger brothers who built and taught themselves to fly on this and gliders they built,were in the lace-making industry..
A full description on flying the `Beast` is in `From Bleriot to Spitfire`,about the Shuttleworth Collection. I only flew it once,on it`s last flight on 11/4/77,having been let loose by John Lewis ,the SC Chief pilot...Once flown-never forgotten..!
Anyway ,I thought I would make you guys work for it after all the hassle!!
Hope you enjoyed...Now I`ve got to get my back and neck into shape after sitting on an ejection seat ,pulling lotsa `g`...Cheers all..
reference `pink cheeks`;;;when you were very young I assume your favourite Aunt/Granny would pinch you on your rosy cheeks and say` proper little Cherub` isn`t he...
The reference to more delicate fabric was that the Granger brothers who built and taught themselves to fly on this and gliders they built,were in the lace-making industry..
A full description on flying the `Beast` is in `From Bleriot to Spitfire`,about the Shuttleworth Collection. I only flew it once,on it`s last flight on 11/4/77,having been let loose by John Lewis ,the SC Chief pilot...Once flown-never forgotten..!
Anyway ,I thought I would make you guys work for it after all the hassle!!
Hope you enjoyed...Now I`ve got to get my back and neck into shape after sitting on an ejection seat ,pulling lotsa `g`...Cheers all..
Mate I didn't upload the third and final photo, showing your face. I thought you would prefer Stig status. If you change your mind let me know.
(Just a reminder mate, if you need help with uploading images there are a lot of people here willing to provide tutorials/assistance/tips on the process. Cheers.)
If you change your mind let me know.(Just a reminder mate, if you need help with uploading images there are a lot of people here willing to provide tutorials/assistance/tips on the process. Cheers.)
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Originally Posted by sycamore
when you were very young I assume your favourite Aunt/Granny would pinch you on your rosy cheeks and say` proper little Cherub` isn`t he...
er isn't he..." !! I won't go into what my least favourite would do/say 
!!
after sitting on an ejection seat ,pulling lotsa `g`...
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Trevor
I would agree. It is obvious that Airliners.net have got it wrong.
It should be the Howard-Poberezny Pete III. Unless they got that wrong too.
Mel
Hmm, now that is another challenge for me, I have had a quick look and can see how you have reached that conclusion, but I think that if it was, you'd be able to see the Playboy's prominent wing struts!
It should be the Howard-Poberezny Pete III. Unless they got that wrong too.
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Morning Mel,
Well... That's what I have it as.... Well Done 
It started life as the The Howard DGA-3' then in turn became "Pete" aka "Damned Good Airplane - 3", aka "Baker Special", aka "Little Audrey"!!!!!!
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Note it carries the wrong Reg No in main picture (N27B)! No, it is not a Cessna 210, it should be N111PL !!
Photos: Howard-Poberezny Pete III Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Stitts SA-3A Playboy Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net This had me worried for a while, they could do with a "Mel" to sort them out
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It should be the Howard-Poberezny Pete III...
It started life as the The Howard DGA-3' then in turn became "Pete" aka "Damned Good Airplane - 3", aka "Baker Special", aka "Little Audrey"!!!!!!
Operational history
1930 National Air Races - Howard flew five firsts and two third place finishes at 163mph.
1930 Thompson Trophy race, third place.
1931 National Air Races - three second, one fourth, and one sixth place finish.
1932 National Air Races - one second place at 127.347 mph (205 km/h).
1933 Chicago Air Race - pilot Joe Jacobson flew to Two second and one fifth place finish.
1933 International Air Race - one fourth, one fifth, and one sixth place with pilots Helen Lantz, Gordon Israel, and Art Gross.
1934 National Air Races - Joe Jacobson purchased and flew "Pete" to one forth, and three fifth place finishes at 159mph.
1935 National Air Races - One third and one fourth place finish at 147mph.
1947 Goodyear races - As the "Baker Special" The aircraft was partially destroyed in a hangar fire after the races.
In 1953 "Pete" was rebuilt as a homebuilt sportsplane "Little Audrey". The aircraft flew up until 1981. It was once in the collection of the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum. A restoration was performed and the aircraft was donated to the EAA Airventure Museum in Oshkosh, Wisconsin in 1991.
Named after his wife, Little Audrey was constructed by Paul Poberezny in 1953 during the very early days of EAA. The little sport plane was actually made up of a pair of cut down Luscombe wings, a spring steel landing gear, and a Continental A-75 engine attached to a welded steel tube fuselage. The major part of the fuselage came from a tiny racing airplane designed by the well- known Benny Howard and raced under the name “Pete”.
Little Audrey began testing on August 14, 1953. Paul was dogged with problems that day, quite evident when he dragged the airplane in from taxi tests several times with badly smoking brakes. The Continental A-75 engine would only turn up 1900 rpm with the Fahlin prop. Paul quickly remedied both problems and got Little Audrey certified and in the air.
Paul logged many hours in the sport plane before selling it to Joe Yutz in 1955. Little Audrey passed through six more owners before EAA Chapter 1 obtained the airplane and decided to rebuild it. Jan Johnson was elected as the ramrod to oversee the restoration and completed the task with great enthusiasm.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty donated the tubing for the fuselage with Bill Barlow doing the job of cutting the tubes to fit. The wings were two feet longer than the original wings on Little Audrey, and had to be cut and spliced together at the root ends. The covering was done in the Chapter clubhouse using Stits fabric and Polytone coatings, donated by Ray Stits. The original A-75 Continental engine that Paul had installed in 1953 was still in the airplane and in very good shape.
Once the Chapter restoration of Little Audrey was completed, the Chapter 1 president and veteran pilot, Pat Halloran, climbed in and put the little sport plane through its paces before pronouncing it ready for delivery to Oshkosh by trailer – carefully considered to be the safest way to deliver precious cargo. Little Audrey made several flights at the fly-in in Oshkosh in 1991, showing off for the crowd and completing an air-to-air photo session. The final flight was made during the convention with Paul watching intently as the little sport plane was taxied up for the dedication ceremony. With all participants on hand, Little Audrey was donated by William Turner on behalf of all the members of EAA Chapter 1.
Little Audrey is now on display in the EAA AirVenture Museum in the company of other Poberezny prototype designs.
1930 National Air Races - Howard flew five firsts and two third place finishes at 163mph.
1930 Thompson Trophy race, third place.
1931 National Air Races - three second, one fourth, and one sixth place finish.
1932 National Air Races - one second place at 127.347 mph (205 km/h).
1933 Chicago Air Race - pilot Joe Jacobson flew to Two second and one fifth place finish.
1933 International Air Race - one fourth, one fifth, and one sixth place with pilots Helen Lantz, Gordon Israel, and Art Gross.
1934 National Air Races - Joe Jacobson purchased and flew "Pete" to one forth, and three fifth place finishes at 159mph.
1935 National Air Races - One third and one fourth place finish at 147mph.
1947 Goodyear races - As the "Baker Special" The aircraft was partially destroyed in a hangar fire after the races.
In 1953 "Pete" was rebuilt as a homebuilt sportsplane "Little Audrey". The aircraft flew up until 1981. It was once in the collection of the Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum. A restoration was performed and the aircraft was donated to the EAA Airventure Museum in Oshkosh, Wisconsin in 1991.
Named after his wife, Little Audrey was constructed by Paul Poberezny in 1953 during the very early days of EAA. The little sport plane was actually made up of a pair of cut down Luscombe wings, a spring steel landing gear, and a Continental A-75 engine attached to a welded steel tube fuselage. The major part of the fuselage came from a tiny racing airplane designed by the well- known Benny Howard and raced under the name “Pete”.
Little Audrey began testing on August 14, 1953. Paul was dogged with problems that day, quite evident when he dragged the airplane in from taxi tests several times with badly smoking brakes. The Continental A-75 engine would only turn up 1900 rpm with the Fahlin prop. Paul quickly remedied both problems and got Little Audrey certified and in the air.
Paul logged many hours in the sport plane before selling it to Joe Yutz in 1955. Little Audrey passed through six more owners before EAA Chapter 1 obtained the airplane and decided to rebuild it. Jan Johnson was elected as the ramrod to oversee the restoration and completed the task with great enthusiasm.
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty donated the tubing for the fuselage with Bill Barlow doing the job of cutting the tubes to fit. The wings were two feet longer than the original wings on Little Audrey, and had to be cut and spliced together at the root ends. The covering was done in the Chapter clubhouse using Stits fabric and Polytone coatings, donated by Ray Stits. The original A-75 Continental engine that Paul had installed in 1953 was still in the airplane and in very good shape.
Once the Chapter restoration of Little Audrey was completed, the Chapter 1 president and veteran pilot, Pat Halloran, climbed in and put the little sport plane through its paces before pronouncing it ready for delivery to Oshkosh by trailer – carefully considered to be the safest way to deliver precious cargo. Little Audrey made several flights at the fly-in in Oshkosh in 1991, showing off for the crowd and completing an air-to-air photo session. The final flight was made during the convention with Paul watching intently as the little sport plane was taxied up for the dedication ceremony. With all participants on hand, Little Audrey was donated by William Turner on behalf of all the members of EAA Chapter 1.
Little Audrey is now on display in the EAA AirVenture Museum in the company of other Poberezny prototype designs.
Note it carries the wrong Reg No in main picture (N27B)! No, it is not a Cessna 210, it should be N111PL !!
Photos: Howard-Poberezny Pete III Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Stitts SA-3A Playboy Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net This had me worried for a while, they could do with a "Mel" to sort them out
MReyn24050 has control
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Bri. I would agree with you that the altitude lever is part of the mixture controls. The "dope pump" is the engine fuel priming pump.
See Below. An extract from a book "The Complete Airman" G.C.Bailey 1920. He refers to a starting dope pump on the second line.
See Below. An extract from a book "The Complete Airman" G.C.Bailey 1920. He refers to a starting dope pump on the second line.