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Old 11th Nov 2010, 22:46
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Tupolev ANT-6/Tb-3 ?
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Tupolev ANT-6/Tb-3
That's the one mate! Your control.

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Old 12th Nov 2010, 07:33
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Thanks. I'll be back at approx. 1600Z, otherwise it is open house for those who can't wait!
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Geame. Something does not seem to tie up. The following photograph was taken from a Tupolev ANT6/TB-3, which ties up with your earlier cutaway drawing.

You say that the challenge photograph is identified as the ANT6/TB-3 I would love to know what version. Looking at the photograph it looks as though the cockpit is located off centre also there is no sign of the corrugated skin as shown in the photograph above. Interesting.
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Yes, I agree. The clue drawing is an ANT-6, but the original photo is perhaps a version of an ANT-4. I am presently searching for a cockpit photo of an ANT-4, ANT-7, and ANT-21.

I note that the ANT-4/7 versions, the R-6 and PS-7 had off-centre single-seat cockpits, but I can't be certain of the MP-6 configuration.

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Old 12th Nov 2010, 16:15
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In the meantime, here is the next challenge:
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Old 12th Nov 2010, 16:34
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Well, it kind of looks like a Falcon 50. Believe it or not, we've not had the Falcon 50 according to the list.

But something just does not look right for a 50. Unless a very early serial number.

Could be a straight Falcon 900, haven't had that one either.

It's the speed brake handle that's throwing me off.
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Old 12th Nov 2010, 17:00
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Sorry, not the Falcon 50, nor the Falcon 900. Perhaps we had the Falcon 50 recently but the list hasn't reflected it.
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Sorry, not the Falcon 50, nor the Falcon 900
Not surprised, there are only five types of three engine jet aircraft* in the US and I've flown three of them. The cockpit looks too small for the DC-10/MD-11 or the L-1011.

So, I'm still scratching my head. When it is reveled, I'll probably hit myself.


* I included Dassault in that number.

Oh, and DUH! The cockpit in the picture shows three thrust reversers. Okay, just how dumb am I?



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That sure looks like the L-1011, (-500), to me, especially the speed brakes and gear lever/switch and the two autopilot engage switches, but I don't see the FMS panels.
I looked at the list of previous flight decks and can't find the L-1011 listed so I have to go with some version of the Tristar.

If correct, I have to go open house as I am away and have no access to post anything.
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Yes, it is a Lockheed L-1011 Tristar. Some panels had vertical readout engine gauges, others had round ones. The cockpit photo is from a nearly new Cathay Pacific ship, VR-HHV, Lockheed L-1011-385-1, taken perhaps thirty-five years ago.

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Old 12th Nov 2010, 18:35
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Of all the types I flew, the -500 was an nice as any, if not the best.
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You say that the challenge photograph is identified as the ANT6/TB-3
True. From an article devoted to the ANT-6 in Air Enthusiast 1988. The caption goes on to point out the "extraordinarily simple panel and the inordinately large control wheels"

I just thought it looked interesting and wasn't on your list Mel. Shall I try again or just bugger off? LOL.
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Old 13th Nov 2010, 15:53
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I just thought it looked interesting and wasn't on your list Mel. Shall I try again or just b****r off? LOL.
Certainly try again.
It is certainly a very interesting photograph. Please do not take my question as criticism; as Bri states in his Post ,
The clue drawing is an ANT-6, but the original photo is perhaps a version of an ANT-4
It is known that Russia flew a version of the ANT-4 to New York from Russia the aircraft was URSS 300, perhaps the photograph is that aircraft.

They also produced TB-3-4AM-34RD which was a TB-3 version used as a long-range demonstration aircraft with streamlined fuselages, it may be this aircraft?

If any experts on Russian aircraft follow this thread they may well be able to give us the answer.
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Please do not take my question as criticism
No, not at all mate, none take Unfortunately I'm relying 100% on the accuracy of the caption author with these images as I have no aviation experience. Some books/magazines have very dubious captioning but I was hoping Air Enthusiast would be very reliable. The ANT-4 theory is a good one from Bri as is the TB-3-4AM-34RD from yourself, I just have no way of finding out. But as you say as time ticked on I had a look and was surprised at the differences, hence the cutaway.

Try again?

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Old 13th Nov 2010, 23:12
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Ryan Fireball ?
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Ryan Fireball ?
It is American, a fighter and carrier based but not a Ryan...
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Grumman Bearcat ?
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Old 14th Nov 2010, 10:51
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Jet powered mate.
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I`ll raise you a Panther then..
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