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Old 17th Oct 2009, 09:26
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How about this? Extra marks for where and when.

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Old 17th Oct 2009, 14:28
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A FedEx pilot checking the mail is secure `somewhere in USA `?
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 15:50
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Wright Flier, Kittyhawk, early 1905?
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Old 17th Oct 2009, 15:55
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Looks like a Wright Flyer. It would be topical if it was at either the Blackpool or Doncaster 1909 Flying Meetings, both 100 years ago this week.
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one11 and Kitbag,

Yes, it's a Wright but which model?

Sycamore,
Not FedEx but closer than you might have thought - this is probably the first ad-hoc air freight charter ever.

Not Kittyhawk and the pilot is not Wilbur or Orville.
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Wright Model B? Farnum Fish delivering 50 lbs of silk from Chicago's Cicero Flying Field to Milwaukee on May 25th, 1912?

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Old 18th Oct 2009, 04:46
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The Bs have it.

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yes, it's a Wright B Flyer:



You are right about the silk, but I'm pretty sure the pilot is Phil Parmelee. He is doing his pre-takeoff checks - note the props are rotating. The caption on my photo reads (in part):

Morehouse-Martens, a department store in Columbus, Ohio, hired pilot Phil Parmalee to deliver rolls of silk from Dayton in the passenger seat of his Wright Model B -- then promptly sold the fabric as souvenirs and made a handsome profit.
This is supported by a photo of Phil (Philip Orin Parmelee), wearing the same distinctive jacket.

I had been planning to use this photo below (cropped to remove the disctinctively grim-faced Wilbur) taken at Hunaudieres racetrack, Le Mans in 1908:



but I discovered that windriver had previously posted a sketch (http://www.pprune.org/3037927-post385.html) which is clearly derived from the Le Mans photo:




All of my photos are taken from a really good book, which I was given some time ago, but only recently got around to reading - "On Great White Wings - The Wright Brothers and the Race for Flight" by Fred Culick and Spencer Dunmore, McArthur and Company, Toronto, 2001.

Over to you in Sunny Alberta.
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Thanks Simon. Yes, sunny and windy today. Determining the Wright 'B' model was easy, the pilot's name and type of cargo not so easy. Why was silk such a time sensitive material? I read about express trains carrying silk in the early 1900s as well. What was the rush? Back on track, here is the next mystery cockpit:
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 19:07
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8 engines, civilian airliner type crew from late 40's early 50's. Got to admit I'm having trouble working out what's outside the windows.
Is it an artist impression of the Spruce Goose, Hughes H4?
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 19:14
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Or a civil version of the B-52 ?
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 19:29
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Sorry, not a civil B-52. Not a flying boat. The craft was designed in the late 1950s, and had defensive armament. The photo is a still frame from a film. Interior reflections are visible on the cockpit windows. Yes, the crew looks civilian, but they were not.
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 20:20
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Desperate suggestion- YB 60?
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Old 18th Oct 2009, 20:29
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Sorry, not the Convair YB-60. The mystery aircraft never actually flew.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 08:30
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It was a serious design evansb? It looks too trekky to me, with the panels of the F/Es (or whatever they are) looking like something out of Thunderbirds! I'm struggling to belive that it was real, or intended to be serious. RR
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:12
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Quite perceptive RR. The cockpit was made for a sci-fi movie in 1957. It is not attached to a real aircraft by any means. If you know the name of the movie, you can determine the name of the aircraft.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:15
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So does it actually have a name?
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:25
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A quatermass something?
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:29
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The aircraft did indeed have a name, and had two sister ships. The movie was released under two names.
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:36
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Blimey!! I can't find it, not even on sci-fi film web sites........

The film was released in 1957 or filmed in 1957?
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Old 19th Oct 2009, 13:41
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"The Deadly Mantis" film????
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