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Old 9th Jul 2008, 15:25
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What about a T28?
AB,

The T28 is macho enough that you could get away with it, but a "ribbed" Trojan? I think not.

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Old 10th Jul 2008, 01:11
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AB,

It's not a Steen Skybolt.

Concerning the Emigh Trojan - I'm a Berkshire Boy, so I knew it might be an obscure joke in Europe, but I also knew that someone like nacluv would explain it
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 23:02
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Hi IFT, How about Waco UPF ????? Keith ?????
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 02:15
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Keith,

Right vintage but not a Waco UPF.

A clue: a different kind of construction from conventional biplanes.
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 05:00
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A Stearman by any chance??
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 07:29
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No, not a Stearman either.

The construction difference is well illustrated in the cockpit picture.

Clue No. 2. This was the only biplane produced by this company.
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Old 11th Jul 2008, 19:02
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AB,

Yes, monocoque fuselage and possibly all metal wings, but I have seen a reference to wooden spars, but that might have been only the prototype.

Edited to add that I was referring to the wing structure. The wings are fabric covered.

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Old 12th Jul 2008, 08:41
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How about Great Lakes 2-T ???? Keith.
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Old 12th Jul 2008, 09:39
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Keith,

It's not a Great Lakes.

Clue No. 3 - This company only produced three different aircraft during its entire history. All three are highly sought after by enthusiasts.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 02:52
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The easy-to-fly Meyers OTW. I was set back a bit by the modernized instrument panel. With the possible exception of the compass, I don't think there is an original instrument on the challenge photograph. Here is another restored Meyers OTW cockpit truer to the original. Most had fixed-pitch props, hence no manifold pressure gauge. At least two different engines and two windscreen designs were also employed.



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Old 13th Jul 2008, 04:13
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Well done, bri. A Meyers OTW (Out To Win) - this particular one in fact:



I wondered about the modernity of the panel, but never having seen a photo of another panel, I assumed it was a nicely restored original. I hadn't noticed the MP gauge, but the picture above shows a fixed pitch prop - very strange.

A very nice story about Al Meyer and the OTW can be found here:
Military
(the text colour is dreadful - I had to paste it into Word in order to read it)

and Budd Davisson has a flight test report here:
Meyers OTW Pirep

I've added the OTW to the list of biplanes I would like to fly.

Over to you.
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 04:32
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Thanks, Simon. Great challenge, as usual. I just got back from 5 days in Las Vegas, (yes, I know, in July..?). Enough about having fun. Here is the next challenge:

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Old 13th Jul 2008, 11:32
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Looks like an (early?) version of the Piaggio P.149?
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Old 13th Jul 2008, 11:34
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The P.149? No. And here I thought you had hacked my gallery. Just kidding.

You are on the right track, however.

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Old 14th Jul 2008, 16:16
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Clues: First flight in 1951. Just over 100 were produced.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 17:08
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It looks very similar to a P148.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 18:26
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It is the Piaggio P.148 You have control.

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 15:55
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That glorious, beautiful, sexy, perfect Meyers, and the hideous Piaggio.
Have to agree that the Myers certainly looks great but can assure you that the Piaggio is a great little trainer. I had the pleasure of flying a civilianized version back in the 80's and very nice it was too.

This will not cause any difficulties:

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 17:19
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Champion 7GCAA?

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 17:30
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Caramba,

You beat me to it, while I was reminding myself of the alphabet soup model designations.

It is certainly a flapless Citabria, with a carburettor and a fixed-pitch prop, and given the fake wood grain panel, I agree that the 7GCAA is the more likely model. I've never seen a Citabria with an AH or DI before, but I've seen lots with that rat's nest look under the panel!


I resisted the temptation to look up N9574S

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