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Old 12th Jul 2008, 07:41
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How about Great Lakes 2-T ???? Keith.
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Keith,

It's not a Great Lakes.

Clue No. 3 - This company only produced three different aircraft during its entire history. All three are highly sought after by enthusiasts.
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The easy-to-fly Meyers OTW. I was set back a bit by the modernized instrument panel. With the possible exception of the compass, I don't think there is an original instrument on the challenge photograph. Here is another restored Meyers OTW cockpit truer to the original. Most had fixed-pitch props, hence no manifold pressure gauge. At least two different engines and two windscreen designs were also employed.



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Well done, bri. A Meyers OTW (Out To Win) - this particular one in fact:



I wondered about the modernity of the panel, but never having seen a photo of another panel, I assumed it was a nicely restored original. I hadn't noticed the MP gauge, but the picture above shows a fixed pitch prop - very strange.

A very nice story about Al Meyer and the OTW can be found here:
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(the text colour is dreadful - I had to paste it into Word in order to read it)

and Budd Davisson has a flight test report here:
Meyers OTW Pirep

I've added the OTW to the list of biplanes I would like to fly.

Over to you.
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Thanks, Simon. Great challenge, as usual. I just got back from 5 days in Las Vegas, (yes, I know, in July..?). Enough about having fun. Here is the next challenge:

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Looks like an (early?) version of the Piaggio P.149?
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The P.149? No. And here I thought you had hacked my gallery. Just kidding.

You are on the right track, however.

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Clues: First flight in 1951. Just over 100 were produced.
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Old 14th Jul 2008, 16:08
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It looks very similar to a P148.
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It is the Piaggio P.148 You have control.

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Just a thought; what a contrast, those last two photos.

That glorious, beautiful, sexy, perfect Meyers, and the hideous Piaggio.

Whoever said, "If it looks right, it is right!" had it bang on the nose, didn't he?
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That glorious, beautiful, sexy, perfect Meyers, and the hideous Piaggio.
Have to agree that the Myers certainly looks great but can assure you that the Piaggio is a great little trainer. I had the pleasure of flying a civilianized version back in the 80's and very nice it was too.

This will not cause any difficulties:

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Champion 7GCAA?

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 16:30
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Caramba,

You beat me to it, while I was reminding myself of the alphabet soup model designations.

It is certainly a flapless Citabria, with a carburettor and a fixed-pitch prop, and given the fake wood grain panel, I agree that the 7GCAA is the more likely model. I've never seen a Citabria with an AH or DI before, but I've seen lots with that rat's nest look under the panel!


I resisted the temptation to look up N9574S

I42

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 18:28
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You are absolutely correct it is the 7GCAA. You have control.

N9574S
Of course you dis sir! Honest chappie like you.

That panel though goes down as the ugliest, most un-ergonomical in any light single I know! (thoughts for a new thread?)
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Old 15th Jul 2008, 21:40
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I've only just discovered this thread and am startled at the recherche aircraft and swift responses.

Citabria I thought, bit tatty but fairly contemporary shot (wheel on truck) so guessed at a mid sixties or so aircraft.

Well, the only time I'll ever get in first and ImageShack won't behave. So - open house!!

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Old 15th Jul 2008, 22:07
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Caramba, I will stand in for you, Well done. This post is so easy I will expect "exact model" answers ???? Keith.

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This one may be tredding the line of having been posted before, though in a much less updated form.

C2j

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Well, there's a DC-3 under all the fancy new gloss. The gear latch and lever, the pedestal, the windscreen shape and the control column (though not the yoke) all give it away.

This is one of the turboprop versions, I'd guess, but I hate those abominations too much to care what they call it.

If that answer is close enough, make it OPEN HOUSE.

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Old 16th Jul 2008, 09:45
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Its a Basler BT67

Why abomination? If it keeps the old things flying why not, they'll go for scrap otherwise. This isn't like unnecessarily butchering a Bearcat or Sea Fury for racing.
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