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Old 5th Apr 2007, 08:23
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No takers! In a way I am not surprised, this particular aircraft was a bit of an odd ball. It did fly but not well, it was an early experimental aircraft, around 1920s!!
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Wouldn't be one of Armstrong Whitworths angular creations would it? Looks like a radiator matrix at the top of the picture in line of sight of the driver.
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No, not one of Armstrong Whitworth's angular creations. As you say the radiator matrix appears to be in line of sight of the driver.This one was British though.
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Mel, was this an Avro design?
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Bri. Not an Avro design.
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Okay, how about Blackburn, then?
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With the 'flat' upper surfaces of the forward cowling, I would guess at the De Havilland stable. Though a browse through a very good reference book last night came up with nothing.
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To recap.
This aircraft was photographed either during it's initial build or it's rebuild. It was a one off and was built as an experimental aircraft to support the design of another aircraft . It was built around 1920 by a British Company but not by either Avro,Armstrong Whitworth, Blackburn or De Havilland. It also had a nickname connecting it to it's designer.
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Mel, Thanks for the recap. I thought you and Bri were going to go through the manufacturers from A to Z

Was the fuselage top flat when finished?
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Yes the top of the fuselage was flat, a cross-section of the fuselage shows a simple rectangular fuselage.
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The prospective A-Z was a good reminder of the nations once fine Aviation Heritage, and a sad reflection of what is has become:
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Is it from Bristol?
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Bri. Sorry for the delay. Yes it was from the Bristol Aeroplane Company.
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Mel, is it the Bristol Seely?
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Bri. Not the Bristol Seely, the challenge aircraft flew a little bit earlier.
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Bristol Tourer?

A replica in Australia had the right side canvas missing to show the structure.
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Not the Tourer but there was a connection between the Tourer and the challenge aircraft.
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Bristol also developed an all-metal version of the F.2A, designated the Bristol M.R.1. Two prototypes were built, the first flying on 23 October, 1917, but the M.R.1 never entered mass production.

On the other hand, the Bristol Burney was named after Charles Burney, one of the Bristol 'family' of designers.

Sadly I cannot find an image of this machine to check. It must be as rare as chickens teeth.
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As stated earlier, it was a one off and was built as an experimental aircraft to support the design of another aircraft. It was not the Burney. This one really was the original X Plane before the USA even considered the designation.
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Mel said:
However, I am sure it will not last long.
You having a laugh!!

I am puzzled by Bristol boast about making tubular steel aeroplanes, when this one is clearly constructed with a hardwood frame. Is the photograph a modern one reproduced in B&W? Does the machine still exist? For it is a good quality image for an 'old' photo. Was the result of the "experiment" the Bristol Bulldog fighter? Is the quoted (1920's) correct, as the framework suggests 1910-1920.
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