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Old 29th Mar 2007, 12:51
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SAAB JAS-39D Gripen perhaps.
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 13:23
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Akubra, sorry it is not a Buckeye.
MReyn24050, sorry Mel, it is not a SAAB.
The aircraft was not made in the U.S. or Sweden.
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 16:21
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This seems to be a reverse of the earlier Pilatus Porter trick photo. In this case, what looks like one throttle is two. It's a Pucara.
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 16:31
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It is a Pucara, and the throttle is below the handle seen on the left (out of picture) I think the handle seen is a canopy lock. I-F 2 has it methinks

This explains the red on the side.
Anybody know what the red stripe through the flag indicates? The panel mounted GPS was a surprise unless it is an ex-military aircraft.
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 17:25
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"Anybody know what the red stripe through the flag indicates?"

It could be the flag of the Entre Rios Province....... it just happens to have a red diagonal stripe. Could it be that a/c based there would indicate the fact by having the provincial flag?
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Old 29th Mar 2007, 17:28
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Spot on, India Four Two! It is an IA-58 Pucara. Well done. You have control.

Tiger_mate's photo is a Uruguay Air Force IA-58 displaying standard markings. As well, Argentina, Columbia, Mauritania, and Sri Lanka also operated the Pucara.

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Old 30th Mar 2007, 05:48
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I have to say I wan't sure about the throttle. The ergonomics seemed wrong. Canopy lock is much more convincing.

Here's an interesting one. I wasn't able to connect to Cringe's list but I don't think we've had it before.

I had never even heard of the manufacturer, never mind the type:



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Old 30th Mar 2007, 06:23
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Caproni?

....or the american GMB which was a copy.
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Old 30th Mar 2007, 06:37
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Don't you love the control lock/thin rope/thick string?
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India Four Two challenge.

I believe it is a Keystone B-6A. The last Biplane Bomber in the USAAF.

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Old 30th Mar 2007, 15:05
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Mel wins again

Yes, it's a Keystone B-6A. However, I agree with Tiger_mate, it does have a "European" look to it. It also has a surprisingly modern instrument panel (turn and slip) for an otherwise "WWI" bomber. Quite an anachronism.

Aviate1138. Yes, I liked the control lock too. More in spirit than practical value. Let's hope they had something stronger when it got really windy.

The throw over control wheel must have made it interesting for instructors.

Looking at the panel, I was wondering if the Captain flew from the right seat?

Over to you Mel.

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Next Challenge

Thanks India Four Two.
The following link is to a site that outlines some information concerning the Keystone Aircraft Corporation.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch...ht_sec_15.html
Next challenge, I am sure this one will not last long.
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Old 30th Mar 2007, 20:02
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Sorry folks. I cannot resist this piece of backwards thread creep.

This image from http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/sha...-1234P-006.jpg
clearly indicates why the B-6 was the last USAAF biplane bomber:



Possible Caption: "Captain, when we get in out of the rain, let's make sure this is the last open cockpit bomber we buy!"
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24 Hours many viewers no takers. Surely not that difficult.



Early 1930s single engine.
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Is it of Italian origin?
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Bri. Sorry for the delay no this aircraft was not Italian. It was not a European aircraft.
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South American or Mexican?
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It was a South American aircraft.
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Mel,

For some reason your Photobucket image is not displaying for me (Sunday 1340 UTC), so I cannot check, but I think the Altimeter might be labelled in Portuguese - so to narrow it down a bit further - Brazilian?
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Sorry to hear the photograph is not showing for you. Not sure about the Altimeter being labelled in Portuguese, this one came from further south.
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