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Old 27th Jun 2007, 13:31
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Looks a bit Russki the driver chappie. Total guess: Ant 14
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 13:46
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MReyn24050:Yes and Yes.
Now that certainly narrows it down.
larssnowpharter: Not from Russia I'm afraid.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 14:03
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Akubra. Thanks I am not sure if this bird is a monster or a nymph,from the photograph she certainly looks a handful. Although I understand it handled well.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 14:36
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Looking at the throttles am I correct in assuming this is a twin engined flying boat?
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It is Akubra's bedtime.
However I can answer your question. You are in fact incorrect on both counts, this aircraft was a landplane and was multi-engined.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 14:42
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I reckon it might be the Short Scylla.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 16:25
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Akubra's challenge.

Well done puddinghead It is the Short L.17 , two were built Scylla and Syrinx. Akubra's photograph shows Scylla (G-ACJJ) with Captain O.P.Jones at the controls.

CH Barnes in his book 'Shorts Aircraft since 1900' published by Putnam relates a story regarding the Short L.17 handling. The story has it that when Capt Jones was flying Syrinx on one of its last flights in WWII he was landing at Westland's airfield at Yeovil, where the airfield had just been elaborately camouflaged with dummy 'hedges and ditches' sprayed on to the grass with a mixture of paint and sawdust. This looked very realistic on a dull November afternoon, and Capt Jones, with very little load on board, managed to land across the airfield from north to south in about 50 yards, coming to rest without actually over-running any of the painted stripes.
Next morning Westland's chief test pilot, Harald Penrose, had to deliver a Lysander to Boscombe Down:he made a typical 'three-point take-off' in his best Lysander demonstration manner and continued climbing at more than 45 degrees. Capt Jones then took off,unsticking the Syrinx in about twice its own length, and climbed equally steeply, though in a level attitude. This spectacle seriously misled another visiting pilot, following in a Miles Whitney light monoplane, into thinking there was a strong westerly wind shear, but in fact there was very little wind, and his determined leap off the ground was followed by a stall, from which he only just managed to recover without damage.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 17:07
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Thanks,

That was a lucky guess. Something from far distant Classics lessons rang a bell - Scylla was a nymph turned into a monster!
I've just had a look at the list of previous types and I'm afraid to say it's going to take me a considerable amount of time to find something that's not been posted before. What's more, I don't think I've got the right kit with me to upload an image. I'd be grateful if someone else could keep this going while I get my ducks in a row.

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Old 27th Jun 2007, 21:11
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 21:15
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Hope its the back seat of something, forward vision being a bit limited!

F4G Wild Weasel?
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 22:08
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Vis is certainly restricted. She is a single-seater. No, sorry not a McDonnell F-4 Wild Weasel.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 22:11
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Italian G91?
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 22:20
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Sorry, the aircraft is larger and newer than the Fiat G.91 Gina.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 22:33
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It is a Russian aircraft I think.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 22:51
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The handle at the top would suggest a Navy (carrier) aircraft.

The GPS is a bodge, and although this could be an ex military now civilian aircraft, nations such as Argentine have done this with operational aircraft (Etendard?)

The 'stick' is very similar to that of an F14, but there are no single or indeed twin stick F14.

The Russians historically controlled their fighters from the ground, and therefore forward vision is not deemed too important, so Mel could be on the right track, but it is not a Fulcrum.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 23:12
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The aircraft is of Russian origin.
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 03:49
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Might it be the civilianised version of the Myasishchev M55 Mystic; the Geophysica? High alt recon hence no need for forward vis.
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 04:48
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larssnowpharter is correct Well done Its the 122 ft. wingspan
environmental research and surveillance aircraft Myasischev M-55 Geofizika. The M-55 set a number of high altitude records before production was terminated in 1994. You have control.
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 05:52
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Thank you evansb. One apologises for implying that the L 17 pilot looked Russian. It must be the hat, the blouson shirt and the fact that the aircraft looked as though it had been built out of girders.
Here's one that I don't think we have had before but I doubt it cause problems:
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This is lasting rather longer than I expected. I shall be away for a few days. I have asked Mel to adjudicate.

Mel: Please check PMs
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