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Oddly Mel, it is neither Italian, nor tri-engined. The cockpit shot is from a Spanish registered aircraft, I believe.
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I can understand why one would think it is tri-engined, given the number of three-of-the-same type instruments, but I am relying on the source of the photo, which is credible.
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The cockpit shot is from a Spanish registered aircraft
The aircraft was made in the United States. Photo was taken in 1937
I must admit that it was all the levers that made me think tri-motor and the large 0 on the instruments on the centre panel that made me think it was Itallian of the 1930s, which had such markings.
So the connection is Spain late 1930s so it must be an American aircraft that was involved in the Spanish Civil War.
Two Pilots but it is not a DC-1 or DC-2 nor a Lockheed 10 and as it is not tri-engined it is not the Ford 4 so I will go for the Fairchild 91 which was involved but I am not sure about all those levers and instruments as the Fairchild 91 was a single engined aircraft.
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The aircraft was made in the United States. Photo was taken in 1937
I must admit that it was all the levers that made me think tri-motor and the large 0 on the instruments on the centre panel that made me think it was Itallian of the 1930s, which had such markings.
So the connection is Spain late 1930s so it must be an American aircraft that was involved in the Spanish Civil War.
Two Pilots but it is not a DC-1 or DC-2 nor a Lockheed 10 and as it is not tri-engined it is not the Ford 4 so I will go for the Fairchild 91 which was involved but I am not sure about all those levers and instruments as the Fairchild 91 was a single engined aircraft.
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Mel is correct
Well done
Fairchild produced only eleven -91s.
Fairly advanced for the era, they had variable pitch propellors, electric retractable landing gear, and hydraulic brakes. You have control.
Well done Fairchild produced only eleven -91s.Fairly advanced for the era, they had variable pitch propellors, electric retractable landing gear, and hydraulic brakes. You have control.
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Thread reversal! I have found a copy of the last cockpit photo on a Russian site, airwar.ru. With respect, I can't see how the cockpit shown applies to a single engine aircraft. Is there any other source?
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I must admit I agree with you. Bri I am sure will confirm whether or not that photograph came from the site you metion. I also find it difficult to accept that the cockpit shown applies to a single engine aircraft. I am pretty sure it is from a three engined Itallian aircraft.
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I must admit I agree with you. Bri I am sure will confirm whether or not that photograph came from the site you metion. I also find it difficult to accept that the cockpit shown applies to a single engine aircraft. I am pretty sure it is from a three engined Itallian aircraft.
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The Fairchild 91 photo came from seawings.co.uk. Oddly, the site has only one Italian amphibian, and it is far newer than the Fairchild. As the site has more photos of the Fairchild 91 than any other, I gave it credence, however I now have doubts.
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Going back to the aircraft posted at Bri's post #2541. The instrument that makes me think this is an Italian aircraft is the one on the centre panel second row from the bottom on the left hand side. The following is the panel from a Fiat CR42 Falco:-
An identical instrument is located centre left hand side of the panel.
Also in the photograph at Post # 2541 from the curtain positions I get the impression there is a windscreen support on the aircraft's centre-line yet on the Fairchild 91 the windscreen did not have a centre-line support. Also the instrument on Post # 2541 bottom row extreme right is similar to that on the Falco panel bottom row right.I may be wrong but I have not seen these instruments on other aircraft except Italian.
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An identical instrument is located centre left hand side of the panel.
Also in the photograph at Post # 2541 from the curtain positions I get the impression there is a windscreen support on the aircraft's centre-line yet on the Fairchild 91 the windscreen did not have a centre-line support. Also the instrument on Post # 2541 bottom row extreme right is similar to that on the Falco panel bottom row right.I may be wrong but I have not seen these instruments on other aircraft except Italian.
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