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What Cockpit? MK V

Old 21st Aug 2007, 21:16
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This was Russian but had a much more conventional twin engine layout,for it's time that is.
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Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle, possibly Nigerian Airforce.
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Old 22nd Aug 2007, 12:43
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Bri. It was indeed the Ilyushin IL-28 Beagle.
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Old 22nd Aug 2007, 16:12
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Thanks Mel. The Russians claim the tail-mounted guns of the IL-28 surprised many rebels in Afghanistan. Here is the next cockpit:

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OK, to state the obvious, it's a biplane, radial engine, 'N' shaped cabane struts, unusual arrangement for armament, both guns seem to be assymetrically mounted (when fitted). There is a smallish fairing behind the pilot. I think this might be a pre 1916/7 design 'cos I can't see any sort of interrupter gear linkage andno obvious sighting equipment, unless that was mounted on the upper weapon. Wouldn't be a Dutch design would it?

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Old 22nd Aug 2007, 20:09
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Not a Dutch design. The aircraft first flew in mid-1917.
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Old 22nd Aug 2007, 21:16
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Nieuport 28?
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Old 22nd Aug 2007, 22:26
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pigboat is correct. Built by the Societe Anonyme des Establisement Nieuport, the N.28 was an improvement on earlier models. Although highly manoeuverable, the French Air Service rejected the N.28 as inferior to the Spad XIII. The N.28 became the first operational fighter to be used by the American Expeditionary Force. It was flown by ace Capt. Eddie Rickenbacker. I think it was the best looking flying machine of World War I. You have control.
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A trim little airplane wasn't it?
I'll open the floor to anyone, since I'm a little short on pics at the moment.
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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 03:43
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I'll go along with that. The Nieport just looked 'right'.
Here's one just to keep things moving. I am sure it will not be on long:
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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 12:45
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Sorry, guys. I didn't think this would cause problems and it has been up a while now and had quite a few views if the counter is working right. I have asked Mel to adjudicate so that I may go and earn a crust.
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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 17:31
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Yakovlev Yak-12, NATO code name Creek. Your example appears to have a modified panel incorporating western avionics. See the earlier panel below:

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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 18:56
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larssnowpharter's challenge

Bri I would say that that was close enough. From larssnowpharter's PM :-
It is PZL 101; basically a development of the YAK 12M
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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 19:45
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Thank you. I stand corrected. I check it was a PZL-101 Gawron (Rook). Here is the next challenge. If you can identify the pilots, you can probably identify the aircraft, and vice versa.

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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 20:29
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I`ll bite....

Alcock & Brown... Vickers Vimy???
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Old 23rd Aug 2007, 20:51
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Sorry, not Alcock & Brown, nor the Vickers Vimy.
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Curtiss model F?

If that's correct, open the floor 'cause I'm off to bed.
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Old 24th Aug 2007, 02:25
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Sorry pigboat, not the Curtiss F. Sleep well, mariner.
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Old 24th Aug 2007, 02:35
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Clue: The aircraft broke a pre-existing record for its class in distance and speed.
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More clues: The men formed an aircraft company that built many types of aircraft. A 1/4 scale RC model of the aircraft pictured is on display at a museum. The model has a wing span of 18 feet.

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