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Old 20th May 2004, 14:01
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Ryan PT22

I have just acquired Ryan PT22 G-BTBH and soloed it for the first time at Old Warden yesterday. A very straightforward, honest aircraft that flies beautifully. It has the glide of a breeze block and an engine note that ensures lots of chuckles as you blatter through the sky.

Marvellous!

I have acquired a second crashed machine G-BPUD with it so have literally a shed load of bits.

Keen to communicate with other owners.

I heard a rumour that the Breighton machine has a damaged wing. Is this old news?

I have spare wings.

Come to Old Warden and see the new toy. Be prepared to want one.

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Old 20th May 2004, 14:35
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The Maytag Messerschmitt! Nice one Hairyplane!

Always liked seeing them on the show circuit, your favourite Mile owner, Bob Mitchell, used to operate several PTs.

What state is 'UD in, restorable, or will you just use it for spares?

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Congrats, I have had the pleasure of having flown '854' in the past and can guarantee you will love every minute of it.

Note the dent in PUD's instrument coaming where the previous owners nose came into contact with it. Ouch!!

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Old 20th May 2004, 18:45
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Sounds like cracking fun. The most improtant thing is will I fit in it

Cant wat to see her on the 6th.
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Hi MotF!

Your butt will fit in it - much roomier than the Maggie.

Unfortunately, the aircraft is a lot heavier than its British plywood counterpart. The Maggie will lift 2 x 16 stone blubberbutts, full fuel and still be more than 100lbs(approx.) below mauw.

The Ryan on the other hand has around 500lb only available, inclusive of fuel. In those days, 12 stones was heavy....

The lovely Nicky (phoooaaar!) has put me on a strict diet. Whilst this isn't strictly aimed at increasing the pax/ fuel options in the Ryan(!) it will help on that score.

I'll ask you the sensitive question, we'll do some calcs and hopefully go for it.

Failing that, I can find a lighter pilot for you - no problem.

Either way - you shall go to the ball. Looking forward to it my friend. You'll love it to bits.

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BTW - how badly injured was the pilot of G-BPUD? Is he still with us or did the crash kill him?

If he didn't join the 'Choir Invisibule' (Monty Python fans will identify!) he might want a ride in my aircraft and could provide some history on his busted machine.

I have bought 'UD in its entirety, sight unseen. However, I am told that it is restorable.

Being somewhat selfish though, I wouldn't get much for the whole thing as a project; I would probably pay more for just one 'widget' that I had just sold, than I got for the lot. (does that make sense, it is 4.00am!); These aircraft aint that rare world-wide - plenty of them in the USA.

At the moment, I have more than enough engine parts to build a second engine and have all sorts of useful airframe parts too. I am also in the fortunate position of not needing the money and having plenty of good storage space.

So, if anybody out there was stuck for a bit, I would gladly help them if I could. My plan otherwise is to identify/ label/ shelve everything at home - no room at OW.



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Hi HP,

I'm glad you started the thread. I can now fomally congratulate you on your new addition and also, thank you for letting me have a go last wednesday. As with all old aircraft, it has it's characteristics that must be respected, but all-in-all it's certainly a pleasant aircraft to fly and a great addition to your fleet at OW. It's probably just as well we had to fly it with limited fuel on board, or we'd still be up there!!

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Just over 14 stone

I am on a diet as we speak.
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Last time I saw this was in the hangar at EGBW under restoration/repair.
There will be more than one interested party who has much feelings to see this in the air again.
However I seem to remember from the conversation I had with the previous owner at the time, it does have some quirks.

I wonder if the radio is up to the excellent standards of your other flying machines.
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Nice one HP.

Should think Tony & co were sad to see her go?
Nice to see she'll be out and about again...

Last time I saw her fly was at TW for the VAC do last September (where she was used in the centenary photo as the air component.)

I recall that her sister off the production line "855" is alive and well in NZ too.

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Nice one HP, the Ryan has been a favourite of mine since I was a kid.
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Well done HP! I take it your desire for a Storch is on the back burner now then...?
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BTW - how badly injured was the pilot of G-BPUD? Is he still with us or did the crash kill him?
Yes, still with us as far as I know, but I would imagine he always tightens his shoulder straps now. It was a few years ago but if I remember, it was winter 1992. Engine failure in Norfolk somewhere. I seem to remember that either the gear dug in, or it hit a low wall in the forced landing. It was survivable, but not for the airframe.
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Storch - very keen on the aircraft - there isn't one for sale anywhere to my knowledge. I think I'll stop at 3 vintage aircraft at the moment otherwise we'll have to stop work on the house to keep them all flying.

Tony was sad to see it go but the net result was a grin once he received the filthy lucre.

I have invited Tony to continue flying it.

It will hopefully be displayed on the 6th - unlikely by me though.

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Great news HP,

Technically it's the wrong engine, but a set of Dutch East Indies triangles and (for the really brave) a set of floats could be fitted?!

It is possible to land on grasswith flots. Not sure what Chris Morris and the CAA would have to say about it though!
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Wrong engine??

Hi JDK,

Not sure what you mean by 'wrong engine.'

Floats??? Nah!!

Mind you, I had a go in a Teal amphibian in Sweden and that was a hoot. I remembered to shut the window on my second water landing...........

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Sorry, I was being unintentionally obscure!

It's the right engine for your plane (which is great!) but the Dutch machines were inline engines rather than radias.

Aerohack (among others) has the full sp on the differences...

Cheers

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Ryan STA

since you guys have shifted this to the STA to a degree, is there anyone in the UK currently flying, restoring, or building a new STA?
The STA, is I think one of the prettiest aircraft ever, such a great example of 30`s art deco metalwork.
There is a set of plans available, drawn by a fellow named Ev Cassagneres, and at least 1 replica has been built, in North Carolina, by a fellow named Glenn Moore, and it is a fantastic reproduction! ( wish I could actually figure out how to post a picture)
but I am wondering just what interest there is amongst UK antique enthusiasts?
as mentioned the aircraft does have some good European connection, in particular the Dutch, and would be spectacular on floats.
anyway, if anyone else is interested in them by all means let me know, I have just aquired a substantial amount of an STA.
now if I could find floats!
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Old 25th May 2004, 07:59
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No STAs in the UK so far as I know... but I'd love to be corrected. Lovely aeroplanes.
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