The Concorde thread (Don't start a separate one!)
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My children thoroughly enjoyed the event - and are the future air travellers who will help pay GrantT's pension or wages. Try not to discourage them might be a good idea, or are you too short to look over their heads ?
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My children thoroughly enjoyed the event
and are the future air travellers who will help pay GrantT's pension or wages.
Try not to discourage them might be a good idea, or are you too short to look over their heads?
What annoyed me were people who generally don't give a toss came to see it and in doing so took up all the parking spaces, got all the best viewing areas and when she went out of sight just pissed off. I heard a woman behind me say "I didn't know it was coming until i heard it on the breakfast news".
I know it's a selfish attitude, but it's true.
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Oh come on, that's not really fair.
Concorde's ultimate appeal is that it appeals to everyone; especially those who have absolutely no interest whatsover in any other aspect of aviation.
So what if they only heard about it on the morning news? I only heard about it yesterday......and I'm a PPruner! And when you say that they ******ed off immediately that it had gone from sight, what did you expect them to do?
Or are you upset they didn't ask you how to disassemble an Olympus 593?
Concorde's ultimate appeal is that it appeals to everyone; especially those who have absolutely no interest whatsover in any other aspect of aviation.
So what if they only heard about it on the morning news? I only heard about it yesterday......and I'm a PPruner! And when you say that they ******ed off immediately that it had gone from sight, what did you expect them to do?
Or are you upset they didn't ask you how to disassemble an Olympus 593?
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I understand your frustration but some of those kids will remember the lucky half-term day (when Dad/Mum ran out of other ideas) for many years, and tell their children about Concorde. With any luck they will also see your magnificent photograph (and DamienB's) and wish there had been another way to continue the story.
My story will relate to GA days and the time I was cleared in 'No 2 to Concorde' while right base for 24 , in someone else's Piper.
This time, we were out alongside 06R, an older couple lent my son their digital binoculars and kept us informed of progress. It was cold and windswept but an excellent vantage point for approach and touchdown. I must admit I wanted to avoid the crowd indoors.
My story will relate to GA days and the time I was cleared in 'No 2 to Concorde' while right base for 24 , in someone else's Piper.
This time, we were out alongside 06R, an older couple lent my son their digital binoculars and kept us informed of progress. It was cold and windswept but an excellent vantage point for approach and touchdown. I must admit I wanted to avoid the crowd indoors.
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Went to see G-BOAC yesterday. Doesn't look right, all these podgy widebodies waddling past this grounded sleek white swan. Anyway, a harassed mum with an excited brood passed by - her daughter, about 10, took one look and said : 'Concorde's wicked!' I'm pretty cold about planes in general, but I thought she summed it up better than I ever could.
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LHR-JFK POSITIONER TODAY G-BOAE?
LHR-JFK supersonic positioner due out this afternoon, slot given currently 1516z ex-LHR on a WOD/CPT dept eta JFK 1904z.
This will be the one of the two last EVER EVER supersonic transatlantic CONC flights.
What I am told this is AE going to SEATTLE via JFK.
This will be the one of the two last EVER EVER supersonic transatlantic CONC flights.
What I am told this is AE going to SEATTLE via JFK.
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BA 9093C
Can anybody confirm that the take-off runway will be the same as other departures for today? In the past BA001 has had priority on the landing runway - and I've positioned myself at the end of the wrong runway as a result.
I guess my radio scanner for ATC should help, but I'm not sure of what frequency I should be locking onto...
I guess my radio scanner for ATC should help, but I'm not sure of what frequency I should be locking onto...
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No news regarding SEA. It is planned that this will be the one to go to Boeing museum in Seattle via JFK as techstop as LHR-SEA to long a sector for Conc.
Once I hear something, I'll let ya awl know.
At 1500z LHR should change to 27R for deps due daily rwy alternations. LHR currently on 27L deps but this changes to 27R at 1500z (in theory,.,.,.) stron westerlies so no chance or 09 deps today.
IF IN DOUBT, TAKE A SCANNER!
BREAKING NEWS
The flight plan now gone out as G-BOAG (no flight number) to fly amended routing LHR-JFK etd 1516z eta JFK 1905z.
Once I hear something, I'll let ya awl know.
At 1500z LHR should change to 27R for deps due daily rwy alternations. LHR currently on 27L deps but this changes to 27R at 1500z (in theory,.,.,.) stron westerlies so no chance or 09 deps today.
IF IN DOUBT, TAKE A SCANNER!
BREAKING NEWS
The flight plan now gone out as G-BOAG (no flight number) to fly amended routing LHR-JFK etd 1516z eta JFK 1905z.
BREAKING NEWS
The flight plan now gone out as G-BOAG (no flight number) to fly amended routing LHR-JFK etd 1516z eta JFK 1905z.
The flight plan now gone out as G-BOAG (no flight number) to fly amended routing LHR-JFK etd 1516z eta JFK 1905z.
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jrbt,
Latest info I have says departure from JFK is on the 5th November at 18.00hrs, arrival at KBFI at 23.00hrs. Subsonic all the way.
Don't know if times are local or GMT though.
Big J.
Thanks for your report Bristolre. Do you have yet an ETD for Seattle? In any event it's not today, is that correct?
Don't know if times are local or GMT though.
Big J.
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JW is correct. The plan is for Concorde to depart JFK at 1800 GMT on 5th November, ariving BFI (Boeing Field I guess) at 2300 GMT same day.
Just got back from LHR having watched her depart into a lovely setting sun at about 1535 GMT.
Just got back from LHR having watched her depart into a lovely setting sun at about 1535 GMT.
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Captain Bannister was asking Air Traffic for the preferred landing times for the 3 Concordes, and said that company had asked that none landed 'on the hour'. Before the hour, or after, was OK, but not on the hour.
Why was that?
Why was that?
Not so much with the BBC as they were live throughout; but many TV networks worldwide were taking feeds from LHR on syndication and would have been away at bulletins at the top of the hour.
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Hi Everyone,
For those of you that are interested, here are the true last flights of the BA Concorde Fleet.
03 Nov - BAW9093C EGLL1500, arrive KJFK 1855, Supersonic.
05 Nov - BAW9093C KJFK1800, arrive KBFI 2300
10 Nov - BAW9093C EGLL1500, arrive KJFK 1855, Supersonic.
17 Nov - BAW9095C EGLL1120, arrive TBPB 1535, Supersonic. See Note below.
26 Nov - BAW9020C EGLL1120, arrive EGTG 1200.
* If direct TBPB is a problem the aircraft could flight plan
a) EGLL - TAPA, TAPA - TBPB (TAPA, Antigua)
b) EGLL - EINN, EINN - TBPB
c) EGLL - LPAZ, LPAZ - TBPB. (LPAZ, Santa Maria, Azores)
If there are are any spare seats please let me know !!
Cheers RSD
For those of you that are interested, here are the true last flights of the BA Concorde Fleet.
03 Nov - BAW9093C EGLL1500, arrive KJFK 1855, Supersonic.
05 Nov - BAW9093C KJFK1800, arrive KBFI 2300
10 Nov - BAW9093C EGLL1500, arrive KJFK 1855, Supersonic.
17 Nov - BAW9095C EGLL1120, arrive TBPB 1535, Supersonic. See Note below.
26 Nov - BAW9020C EGLL1120, arrive EGTG 1200.
* If direct TBPB is a problem the aircraft could flight plan
a) EGLL - TAPA, TAPA - TBPB (TAPA, Antigua)
b) EGLL - EINN, EINN - TBPB
c) EGLL - LPAZ, LPAZ - TBPB. (LPAZ, Santa Maria, Azores)
If there are are any spare seats please let me know !!
Cheers RSD
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Was curious myself. Maybe a freudian slip to do with the destinaton? For those that are interested [incomplete transcript]
Approach: "Boeing Alpha Golf is two from [???] turn right heading zero two zero cross assault[?] at 3000 [??] runway 31 left approach."
AG reads back as "Concorde Alpha Golf..."
Approach: "Boeing Alpha, err... [chuckling] Concorde Alpha Golf contact Kennedy tower one one niner point one, you fellas take care"
AG reads back as "Boeing Alpha Golf".
Tower / AG dialogue was simply "Alpha Golf".
then
Tower: "What are you guys doing in that concorde today?"
AG: "What, apart from having fun?"
AG: "Ummm...We're stopping here enroute to Seattle. The aeroplane is going to go live in Bo... well not the Boeing, the museum of flights yeah."
Approach: "Boeing Alpha Golf is two from [???] turn right heading zero two zero cross assault[?] at 3000 [??] runway 31 left approach."
AG reads back as "Concorde Alpha Golf..."
Approach: "Boeing Alpha, err... [chuckling] Concorde Alpha Golf contact Kennedy tower one one niner point one, you fellas take care"
AG reads back as "Boeing Alpha Golf".
Tower / AG dialogue was simply "Alpha Golf".
then
Tower: "What are you guys doing in that concorde today?"
AG: "What, apart from having fun?"
AG: "Ummm...We're stopping here enroute to Seattle. The aeroplane is going to go live in Bo... well not the Boeing, the museum of flights yeah."
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Alpha Golf show LHR
Wonderful takeoff roll & departure from LHR yesterday after the rains cleared away.
Lots of people around, a good 300 or so turned out lining the Stanwell Moor Road and Longford roundabouts.
Strange how BAA T5 security came out in Land Rovers 5 mins before her late departure to turf everyone out of kerbside areas around the perimter roads. People were strongly defiant in being asked to move away as Alpha Golf commenced her final LHR take off roll. These heartless people have a job to do but the crowds disperse once Concorde had gone. This Scottish geezer had the cheek to openly admit "I am just doing my job better than being a bloody anorak". He nearly got belted by a "well built" Concorde fan trying to take photos.
Strange thing was all the construction workers and digger drivers stopped work and clambered up on fences & concrete barriers momentarily to have a glimpse... Security team never had a go at them only the innocent bona-fide Concorde supporters.
Thanks for the remainder of the final movements program, we are ALL much obliged. Nice one. Keep us updated if any sked changes.
Another thing..
BBC breakfast news today said that there would be a flight from LHR-SEA leaving LHR today... me thinks they got their days mixed up. Either that or there will be tons of people today lining the roads again for nothing!
Lots of people around, a good 300 or so turned out lining the Stanwell Moor Road and Longford roundabouts.
Strange how BAA T5 security came out in Land Rovers 5 mins before her late departure to turf everyone out of kerbside areas around the perimter roads. People were strongly defiant in being asked to move away as Alpha Golf commenced her final LHR take off roll. These heartless people have a job to do but the crowds disperse once Concorde had gone. This Scottish geezer had the cheek to openly admit "I am just doing my job better than being a bloody anorak". He nearly got belted by a "well built" Concorde fan trying to take photos.
Strange thing was all the construction workers and digger drivers stopped work and clambered up on fences & concrete barriers momentarily to have a glimpse... Security team never had a go at them only the innocent bona-fide Concorde supporters.
Thanks for the remainder of the final movements program, we are ALL much obliged. Nice one. Keep us updated if any sked changes.
Another thing..
BBC breakfast news today said that there would be a flight from LHR-SEA leaving LHR today... me thinks they got their days mixed up. Either that or there will be tons of people today lining the roads again for nothing!