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68SS 8th July 2009 06:15

Whats happened to the promised overdue payments ( super plus unpaid wages )to the engineers NL? Nothing......and No one answering at HC hq ?

Ozjet Engineering Pty Ltd is still a TRADING company?

HC - as you know,a spanner in the works can cause catastrophic failure......be careful

ozangel 10th July 2009 06:52

Why would you defend her? Unless you are her? Even her deputies could never stand her. The only friends she had merely hung around in case the powers that be finally realised how incompetent she was and needed a quick replacement.

Is it true AJ (ex O7 and TT) has moved into a management role at strategic?

Crew rest. 10th July 2009 09:54

Simply, Ozangel, I am not AC.



;)

Crew rest. 11th July 2009 01:12


AJ?? I think so!
Wrong again.

:)


The only friends she had merely hung around in case the powers that be finally realised how incompetent she was and needed a quick replacement.

Are these same people "friends" of yours too?

:ooh:

ozangel 11th July 2009 01:19

Generally no. :rolleyes: ???

AerialPerspective 17th July 2009 04:46

Criticism
 
Some of you lot should read the forum rules.. as for AC, if it's who I think you're talking about I don't agree with anything that's been said..
It's very easy to criticize someone when you can do it under the umbrella of anonymity.
The fact that no-one knows who you are is enough anyway, if you criticize and slander someone like her then you're not worth the effort to know anyway.
Why don't you just get over it and confine your comments to general industry comment rather than bagging everyone in sight..

Engineer_aus 21st July 2009 05:01

According to my spy, there has been 2 737's registered now with the N reg at Perth Airport

Bundaberg 22nd July 2009 09:35

Rego Changes and stuff
 
As reported on the 7th July by Timber. Rego changes to the OzJet aircraft were predicted and easily obtained from the US.
The fact that Flightstar Trading has reported one B737 sold and the balance pending as well as all other aircraft except RP-C8019 is not surprising. Most say they are past inspection and not airworthy.

Johor Bahru airport advises the ageing Belfast and B727-100F (RP-C8016) expected in July.

CASA must ramp check the birds before they "private flight" out of the country.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

PT6 23rd July 2009 00:58

Ozjet 737's
 
I can confirm that I saw 2 of them in Perth last week.

Timber 23rd July 2009 01:55

VH-OZD
 
The registration process of ex VH-OZD as N731HL has been reversed. The registration is now listed as "reserved" for FlightStar LLC. The aircraft was last seen in Jakarta and probably it was sold from there. Who knows where it will end up...? Could even come back to Strategic???

THRidle 23rd July 2009 02:45

Jeeze, I hope not !!!!

Pine Tree Island 23rd July 2009 07:53

The NLK (OZD) aircraft was really reliable, it was OZX that upset everyone in the end.

Maybe X = D for dog.

Oh yes, OZD had the "lucky" Pine Tree on the tail, none of the rest of the OJ fleet did!!!...

Exgolfer 25th July 2009 09:54

Yes OZD was a great bird to fly in , and it was a great crew that operated it .:ok:
All the best to the US buyers of them now

mark g leach 31st August 2009 06:35

SAD DAY.
 
People im sorry to say you have lost it all.
The man has a very very long history of destroying all before him including his own flesh and blood.
The process of putting him away has just begun.

Stay tuned.

Mach E Avelli 31st August 2009 08:53

Meantime another rumour has it that the new owner may be snivelling on his promise to look after staff entitlements as part of securing their vote for a deed of company arrangement. Is this true? If so, staff would have been better to have voted it down, forcing it to be wound up, and allowing them access to a GEERS payout. Liquidation may also have had the effect of opening a proper investigation into whether or not the former owners/management traded while insolvent. Had that happened they would be wetting their pants instead of laughing all the way to the bank.
Seems this saga has some time to play. Great for the lawyers; probably not so great for the former staff as any remaining money held by the Administrator gets gobbled up.

TAN65 1st September 2009 01:16

I have heard the same thing. As always the staff on the floor get short changed. So much for MJ appearing on TV with a $85K donation to some poor guy and saying he doesn't like to see people in hardship - well make good on your promise to pay out the Oz people and keep them out of hardship.

Cargo744 1st September 2009 02:06

MJ just showing his true colours. As there is no media exposure for doing the right thing by the ex OJ staff he will screw them to the wall. I feel for all the staff who have obviously been sold a massive lie by this snake... hopefully you guys may be able to do something about it and show the public how this guy truly operates!

Timber 1st September 2009 02:23

Registrations
 
Three ex OzJet B737's have been parked at PER for a while now.

One carries the US registration N732HV and is registered in the name of WELLS FARGO BANK. Nothing wrong with that it seems.

The other two carry the registration N737HL (former VH-OZX) and N733HL (former VH-OZU). There is no record of these aircraft being registered in the USA according to the FAA website, although the registrations are reserved for the broker that is trying to sell them.

This is what a US Law (para 46306) has to say about improperly displaying registration marks on aircraft:

General Criminal Penalty.— Except as provided by subsection (c) of this section, a person shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 3 years, or both, if the person knowingly and willfully displays or causes to be displayed on an aircraft a mark that is false or misleading about the nationality or registration of the aircraft;

:=

GuppyEng.com 1st September 2009 05:21

'The process of putting him away has just begun.'

And who exactly was it that got locked up by the AFP for stealing four engines then?:eek:

SeldomFixit 1st September 2009 05:25

Aviation in Oz is a small pond. Don't tell me most of the players in this game weren't well aware of what they were getting into and with whom.
Back in the Stearman days, the SOP's of this lot were brutally obvious. Remember the B737's that appeared for East Coast work but vanished after languising at Mascot for months ?

tcasegpws 1st September 2009 10:00

Cargo744 or should we just call you AG, either way you obviously have no idea about MJ, SA has paid all entitlements and it is the Administrator that is withholding the funds.

So before you start bashing someone that actually does care about the ex employees you should have your facts right. More than I can say then your ex employer Mr Charlton!

mark g leach 2nd September 2009 06:24

Guppy ENG.COM...meek and weak.
 
You can go and pay him a visit in the next cell loser!!
Otherwise WE will come and personally sort all of you girls out.

Great to see ive "Hit a nerve" its only the beginning for all you parasites-sleep well!!

Darwinism 2nd September 2009 19:53

Glad to see that no-one's cracked and dignified 'mark g leach' with a response. If we ignore this idiot he might just go away and play somewhere else.

mark g leach 2nd September 2009 23:30

darwinism.
 
You are another GE Clown go and get a job with HL hahaha....

kiwi engineer12 2nd September 2009 23:57

Saw the 737-200 (OZD?) with the NLK paintjob taxi out of SYD yesterday arvo.

Peter Brady 3rd September 2009 05:59

kiwi engineer12
 
Suggest this may have been B737-300 VH-NLK of Our Airline in the Norfolk Air livery. OA took over from Ozjet after their collapse back in May and from all reports, a vast improvement.

kiwi engineer12 3rd September 2009 14:15


Suggest this may have been B737-300 VH-NLK of Our Airline in the Norfolk Air livery. OA took over from Ozjet after their collapse back in May and from all reports, a vast improvement.
Yea, you are prob right. My head was buried in a broken 777 outflow valve, just caught a glimpse of the tail. Not too clued up on the Ozjet Ops.

Cheers, Kiwi.

Mach E Avelli 3rd September 2009 15:19

All OzJet B732s were actually 'owned' by NL or his various offshore hidey-holes. If Wells Fargo Bank got involved they are bloody slow learners. They got burned with the Air Nauru 737-400 and that was a sweet ship, worth about 14 million at the time, not a collection of junk now worth less than 10% of that in total.
It is probable that liens were held over the aircraft by creditors like Perth Airport and the MRO in Indonesia, so maybe Wells Fargo bought the debt. Who knows? Contrary to what people may think, NL actually did have a business plan. It may have been - ahem - " unconventional " - but it worked well for him. If he has also ripped off Wells Fargo Bank then he is one cunning stunt. But all this is pure speculation. Heavy Cargo, where are you? Can we have your version?

Heavy Cargo 3rd September 2009 22:05

On the beach.:cool:

Dunnza 3rd September 2009 23:51

Out of a Job perhaps HC?

Interesting to note, watching IASC the operators chucking up a stink about the CNS - POM route.

Heavy Cargo 4th September 2009 07:09

HVY has plenty of jobs and got the traffic rights from IASC CNS - POM :cool:

Heard from a refueller the OZ 737-200s from Perth are going flying shortly, two may get an H on the tail the other two were sold $$? :eek:

doleque 4th September 2009 12:19

HC

Just so heart warming to hear you say that the cargo gig is doing well.

Heart warming also hear that you have a use for, and and even cash from the OJ 732's as well.

Maybe if you had of done that just a few short months ago, you could have paid the employee entitlements and helped out a few creditors as well.

Heavy Cargo, what a humble and caring Australian employer you were.....not:yuk:

Dunnza 5th September 2009 11:51

I am heavily involved in the freight market so there is no way you can pull the wool over my eyes by your comments.


HVY has plenty of jobs and got the traffic rights from IASC CNS - POM http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/cool.gif
The Salmon contract?

For those who are interested, someone [not me] has writtin into IASC regarding this. It is available for anyone who wishes to read, its interesting

IAW 6th September 2009 00:44

Got a link Dunnza?

Dunnza 6th September 2009 01:59

Its all on the IASC website!

Peter Sanders 18th September 2009 10:59

OzJet passengers
 
Hi

Please excuse a none pilot on here, I am from the other side of the cockpit door :) . I am searching for a way to get a refund from OzJet or elsewhere, for a trip taken in May under the advice that everything was OK.

Hah! to that - in hindsight of course.

Can someone perhaps give me pointers on where to go, who to see, or where I should make email/phone contact to obtain a refund for the NONE REFUNDED tickets for Bali flights, that were paid for well before the trip took place.

Phone numbers and email address would be good. As many as you can supply would be great as I am willing to try them all! My insurance failed to pay out - as they usually do and try and cajole their way out of paying - by advising that they do NOT cover company financial difficulties "their" problem or responsibility to the insured.

kind regards

Peter

Rudder 18th September 2009 11:42

Unfortunately Peter you've blown it I would say. Your an unsecured creditor and way down the list of priority for creditors.

If you want to try give Nick Leach a call at Heavilift. He's a most pleasant chap!

Eastwest Loco 18th September 2009 12:58

Peter

I am a Travel Agency owner, and therefore not the sharpest tool in the shed, however:

If you paid for the fare by credit card, you can legitimately call them and demand the fare is refunded due to non delivery of service.

It is a fairly straight forward process.

Call your card company and can it.

Need any further advice, give me a call week days on 1800 067 207 or after hours on 0419 323 989.

The same happened when Ansett fell over. Thankfully most of our passengers were on credit card.

Best regards

Ron

EWL

doleque 29th September 2009 10:31

Seems that the Ozjet guys continue to get done over.

Public documents show that Strategic Global P/L (…STRATEGIC AIRLINES…) are attempting to win the hearts, and votes, of the former Ozjet Staff by offering them some $370,000 less than the group is owed.

I bet the Ozjet staff are impressed with the knowledge that they are only considered to be worth 71% of what they are owed just so Strategic can get a cheap AOC and some protected routes.

Considering that many of the staff would probably get more through the GEERS process, than that offered by Strategic through the offer..

Maybe the DOCA will be voted down at the next meeting, the Ozjet people get what they are owed and Strategic get an AOC the tried and true method…..without a large bunch of out of luck employees losing out.

doleque 25th November 2009 00:02

Most recent circular to creditors indicate that HeavyLift proposed a variation to the Ozjet Airlines Pty Ltd DOCA.

"The Creditors resolve that he Administrator make application to the Court under s445D to terminate the deed on the grounds including that the deed is contrary to the interests of the Creditors of the Company as a whole, and in particular, contrary to the interest of the employees as creditors.


The reasons behind his last line is that "The creditors were not given sufficent information at the time of the adoption of the DOCA to appreciate that it was not in their interest.

How true, when you are told the employee entitlements are $827, 278 when they were $1,270,000.

Now Strategic Global Pty Ltd are off to the courts to enforce the DOCA, which has a $422, 722 employee shortfall.

Comment by the Deed Administrator in his circular.

"I believe that the relief sought by the Company and Strategic in the Originating Process[/I] ( Federal Court action listed 17 Nov 2009) may affect the interests of creditors under the Deed of Company Arrangement. In this regard, creditors may wish to seek their own independent legal advice.

Yeah right, if the correct information had of been supplied in the first place there would be no reason why I and my colleagues would need to get legal advice in order to get what is rightfully ours, that being the $442, 722 shortfall being paid by Strategic in the DOCA.

Come on Heavy Lift, put a bit of legal weight into this thing, follow through with what is required, you are the largest creditor and any increase in payout will increase your bottom line as well.

(posted on this thread as tail wheel does not see the connection of this subject to Strategic):ugh:


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