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prickly 23rd Aug 2023 13:01

EFA and A330
 
Is that EFA's first A330 en route SYD to AKL right now

morno 23rd Aug 2023 13:08

Err, no. It’s not

Capt Fathom 24th Aug 2023 07:36

I don't know why people doubted you morno. :E

morno 24th Aug 2023 09:35


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 11490415)
I don't know why people doubted you morno. :E

:p I don’t know either

markis10 27th Aug 2023 05:04


Originally Posted by prickly (Post 11489886)
Is that EFA's first A330 en route SYD to AKL right now

getting closer but still a WIP in Europe

bangbounceboeing 28th Aug 2023 01:40

How many are they getting?
All Sydney based or are there other base options ?

soseg 28th Aug 2023 07:10


Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing (Post 11492664)
How many are they getting?
All Sydney based or are there other base options ?

Who cares. What they pay is criminal.

drshmoo 29th Aug 2023 11:04


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11492717)
Who cares. What they pay is criminal.

The pay is very very poor!

Swept-Wing 30th Aug 2023 00:16

I would say they would be one of the lowest paid wide body pilots in first world countries currently.

PoppaJo 30th Aug 2023 01:11


Originally Posted by Swept-Wing (Post 11493891)
I would say they would be one of the lowest paid wide body pilots in first world countries currently.

Air Asia A330 is ahead of this mob and its A320 offer is ahead of Network. Need I say anymore.

Australia2 30th Aug 2023 13:17

Does anyone have salary figures for the above ?

VH-RME 31st Aug 2023 00:00

From the 2021 EBA, for widebodies it appears for 2023 with 0 years seniority:

CN 205,164
FO 138,267

If anyone has more accurate figures would love to hear them

DeltaT 31st Aug 2023 22:25

They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?
Their Award is freely available on the internet if you look for it.

Pedalz 1st Sep 2023 00:04


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11495120)
They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?

Some of us still actually have self esteem but hey maybe it's just me?

Apologies for the bluntness but the fact there's people actually defending those in the group working under below award wages because they get a few extra days off a month and can text their mates to cover a flight due to their lack of rostering provisions is astounding.

DeltaT 1st Sep 2023 05:39

If the mate agrees, and its all legal, whats the problem?

davidclarke 1st Sep 2023 09:24


Originally Posted by DeltaT (Post 11495120)
They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?
Their Award is freely available on the internet if you look for it.

What a silly comment. So it’s ok to pay well below industry rate then? They also work the most fatiguing duties in the group and almost entirely back of the clock…..but hey let’s pay them less because they work less total hours😡. If anything these roles should be worth more not less.

aussieflyboy 1st Sep 2023 10:12

I’m sure what the EFA wide body Pilots get paid is comparable to what the Atlas crew operating under the Qantas call signs are getting paid.

airdualbleedfault 1st Sep 2023 11:24


Originally Posted by VH-RME (Post 11494483)
From the 2021 EBA, for widebodies it appears for 2023 with 0 years seniority:

CN 205,164
FO 138,267

If anyone has more accurate figures would love to hear them

So circa Network 5th year A320 pay, FFS is that legit?

Capt Fathom 1st Sep 2023 11:31


Originally Posted by davidclarke (Post 11495327)
They also work the most fatiguing duties in the group and almost entirely back of the clock.

Could you elaborate further!

deja vu 1st Sep 2023 12:19


Originally Posted by Pedalz (Post 11495150)
Some of us still actually have self esteem but hey maybe it's just me?

Apologies for the bluntness but the fact there's people actually defending those in the group working under below award wages because they get a few extra days off a month and can text their mates to cover a flight due to their lack of rostering provisions is astounding.

I would call it self grandiose delusion more than self esteem.
Can thank your sycophantic mainline buddies on short term secondment voting to accept the current EBA for a short term piece of silver.


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