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KAPAC 4th Oct 2023 13:58

Look at pax A330 they are lower at the front , convert them to freighters and they need to be level , hence the bump underneath . That’s what I was told a decade ago ?

blubak 5th Oct 2023 20:20


Originally Posted by KAPAC (Post 11514291)
Look at pax A330 they are lower at the front , convert them to freighters and they need to be level , hence the bump underneath . That’s what I was told a decade ago ?

The 'bump' is only fitted on 330's actually built as freighters & it is as you say because the passenger aircraft has a nose down attitude on ground.
Converted 330 freighters do not get the 'bump' as it is required on factory built freighters because the nose gear attachment points are different to get the floor level on the ground for ease of moving freight.
The converted freighters apparently have an electric system installed as part of the conversion because of the issue you say i.e nose down attitude on ground.

Vacation 11th Mar 2024 22:56


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11495360)
I’m sure what the EFA wide body Pilots get paid is comparable to what the Atlas crew operating under the Qantas call signs are getting paid.

LOL. Not even remotely. If you like min wage (or sometimes less than min wage) and no roster at all, efa is the go

A320 Flyer 12th Mar 2024 22:06

Lowest paid 330 pilots in the world I believe

soseg 13th Mar 2024 07:34

An atlas FO second year would be on about 100k a year more

MK 4A Tank 20th Mar 2024 08:34

Tasman Cargo Airlines definitely!!

Window heat 20th Mar 2024 21:19

Yep, EFA wages are woeful.

davidclarke 21st Mar 2024 04:09


Originally Posted by Window heat (Post 11620252)
Yep, EFA wages are woeful.

Yep. I do wonder, with 8 airframes to be delivered in the new few years, how they plan to get pilots to fly them….it really is a GA outfit. And with the adversarial way QF have treated Network negotiations I doubt there will be enough pilots to even fly the current fleet come negotiation time.

Gas Chamber 23rd Mar 2024 08:38

How did Australian pilots allow bean counters and MBA retards to decimate the industry so badly?
It really is time for dramatic change.
unite the unions and work collaboratively like America.

prickly 23rd Mar 2024 09:20


Originally Posted by Gas Chamber (Post 11621961)
How did Australian pilots allow bean counters and MBA retards to decimate the industry so badly?
It really is time for dramatic change.
unite the unions and work collaboratively like America.

As much as I dislike what has happened in the industry you can't blame anyone but the pilots. We saw what happened in '89 and continues today, unity became a thing of the past never to be seen again. There will always be someone looking to advance their career even to the expense of their colleagues.

tiger-palm 22nd Apr 2024 04:39

Does anyone know if EFA pilots will fly the A321and A330 as a common fleet type.

neville_nobody 22nd Apr 2024 06:18


How did Australian pilots allow bean counters and MBA retards to decimate the industry so badly? It really is time for dramatic change.unite the unions and work collaboratively like America.
Because pilots never went into management. Every other industry is controlled by the professions. Mining companies are controlled by the geologists and engineers, medicine by the Doctors, Law Firms by the lawyers etc etc. Somehow though aviation seems to get controlled by people with very little operational knowledge. Boeing are at a existential crisis right now because they stop letting the engineers run the show and are paying folks circa $50 000 000 to screw the joint up and go away. QF could arguably be in a similar position. Time will tell how that ends.

Lapon 22nd Apr 2024 06:33


Originally Posted by tiger-palm (Post 11640328)
Does anyone know if EFA pilots will fly the A321and A330 as a common fleet type.

Seperate pay scales for narrow and widebodies so not that I can see.
Disc: I don't work there so I don't have all the details.

soseg 22nd Apr 2024 12:48


Originally Posted by tiger-palm (Post 11640328)
Does anyone know if EFA pilots will fly the A321and A330 as a common fleet type.

No. Zero chance.

logansi 22nd Apr 2024 13:01


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11515090)
The 'bump' is only fitted on 330's actually built as freighters & it is as you say because the passenger aircraft has a nose down attitude on ground.
Converted 330 freighters do not get the 'bump' as it is required on factory built freighters because the nose gear attachment points are different to get the floor level on the ground for ease of moving freight.
The converted freighters apparently have an electric system installed as part of the conversion because of the issue you say i.e nose down attitude on ground.

This would definitely make sense, on pax A330s its quite common for unlocked units to roll forward under their own weight. As a rampie, the closest I've come to bring crushed as a rampie was when a stuck pallet in the forward hold of an A330 released and suddenly started moving forward quite quickly under its own weight. Could understand this being an even bigger issue with heavier, larger main deck units.

Stationair8 28th May 2024 09:19

What payload can the A321 freighter carry on a Melbourne-Sydney sector compared to B737 freighter?


Global Xpress 28th May 2024 10:09


Originally Posted by Stationair8 (Post 11664686)
What payload can the A321 freighter carry on a Melbourne-Sydney sector compared to B737 freighter?

About 26T. No idea about the 737, but I assume it's alot less

markis10 28th May 2024 11:13


Originally Posted by Global Xpress (Post 11664735)
About 26T. No idea about the 737, but I assume it's alot less

A321P2F 14AAY/10AKH, 208 cubic metres, 28,000 kg

Boeing B737-300 Freighter 8AAA/1AGP, 132.9 cubic metres, 17,340kg

BAE 146-300 Freighter 7ABB, 70 cubic metres, 10,500kg

A332P2F 18QMV/4AAY/26LD3, 453 cubic metres, 60,000 kg



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