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Old 23rd Aug 2023, 13:01
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EFA and A330

Is that EFA's first A330 en route SYD to AKL right now
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Old 23rd Aug 2023, 13:08
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Err, no. It’s not
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I don't know why people doubted you morno.
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I don't know why people doubted you morno.
I don’t know either
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Is that EFA's first A330 en route SYD to AKL right now
getting closer but still a WIP in Europe
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How many are they getting?
All Sydney based or are there other base options ?
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How many are they getting?
All Sydney based or are there other base options ?
Who cares. What they pay is criminal.
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Who cares. What they pay is criminal.
The pay is very very poor!
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I would say they would be one of the lowest paid wide body pilots in first world countries currently.
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I would say they would be one of the lowest paid wide body pilots in first world countries currently.
Air Asia A330 is ahead of this mob and its A320 offer is ahead of Network. Need I say anymore.
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Does anyone have salary figures for the above ?
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 00:00
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From the 2021 EBA, for widebodies it appears for 2023 with 0 years seniority:

CN 205,164
FO 138,267

If anyone has more accurate figures would love to hear them
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They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?
Their Award is freely available on the internet if you look for it.
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They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?
Some of us still actually have self esteem but hey maybe it's just me?

Apologies for the bluntness but the fact there's people actually defending those in the group working under below award wages because they get a few extra days off a month and can text their mates to cover a flight due to their lack of rostering provisions is astounding.
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If the mate agrees, and its all legal, whats the problem?
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They don't slog it out doing max duty hours 5 days a week, so why so critical?
Their Award is freely available on the internet if you look for it.
What a silly comment. So it’s ok to pay well below industry rate then? They also work the most fatiguing duties in the group and almost entirely back of the clock…..but hey let’s pay them less because they work less total hours😡. If anything these roles should be worth more not less.
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I’m sure what the EFA wide body Pilots get paid is comparable to what the Atlas crew operating under the Qantas call signs are getting paid.
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Originally Posted by VH-RME
From the 2021 EBA, for widebodies it appears for 2023 with 0 years seniority:

CN 205,164
FO 138,267

If anyone has more accurate figures would love to hear them
So circa Network 5th year A320 pay, FFS is that legit?
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They also work the most fatiguing duties in the group and almost entirely back of the clock.
Could you elaborate further!
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Originally Posted by Pedalz
Some of us still actually have self esteem but hey maybe it's just me?

Apologies for the bluntness but the fact there's people actually defending those in the group working under below award wages because they get a few extra days off a month and can text their mates to cover a flight due to their lack of rostering provisions is astounding.
I would call it self grandiose delusion more than self esteem.
Can thank your sycophantic mainline buddies on short term secondment voting to accept the current EBA for a short term piece of silver.
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