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MK 4A Tank 19th May 2023 07:40

Singapore Airlines - just declared millions $$$$$$$ profit.

Rodney Rotorslap 19th May 2023 07:42


Originally Posted by Ollie Onion (Post 11436934)
Well as a frequent traveller in Finnair their aircraft are more comfortable than the Qantas product so maybe this will drive good change.

Or maybe Qantas passengers will vanish into Finnair?

MK 4A Tank 19th May 2023 08:34

Wamos Air 173 operating for Air NZ Auckland to Perth!! (Airbus A330-200) Wet Lease.

Boe787 19th May 2023 08:56

Singapore Airlines after their record profit, gave a bonus to all staff, of around 8 months pay.

SixDemonBag 19th May 2023 09:25


Originally Posted by Boe787 (Post 11436997)
Singapore Airlines after their record profit, gave a bonus to all staff, of around 8 months pay.

and the announcement of Direct entry captains. Hooray!

Ollie Onion 19th May 2023 09:35


Originally Posted by Boe787 (Post 11436997)
Singapore Airlines after their record profit, gave a bonus to all staff, of around 8 months pay.

Carefull, Capn Bloggs will be onto you about thread hijacking,

dragon man 19th May 2023 09:47


Originally Posted by Gazza mate (Post 11437019)
I see this as a real slap in the face to Qantas pilots. Still waiting for management to explain how this is anything other than a complete “f*** you” to its loyal pilots. What an absolute blow to the guts…


Why would you expect any different. They talk the talk about loyalty but never walk it.

PoppaJo 19th May 2023 09:53


Originally Posted by Gazza mate (Post 11437019)
I see this as a real slap in the face to Qantas pilots. Still waiting for management to explain how this is anything other than a complete “f*** you” to its loyal pilots. What an absolute blow to the guts…

I doubt many care. I mean, it’s only become about because they are so underinvested in the International space. Failures in the fleet planning department and so on, we could talk about that for years.

Qantas International is still vulnerable due to its small size. They should have three times the amount of 787s, they keep talking about these two magic routes to London and New York, two routes, not starting for years. Qatar, Etihad et al have launched how many new routes in the last few months?

United are coming for the Pacific traffic. Not sure what the plan is in that space. Asia is also weak. Pull those 788s away from its low cost sibling who can barely run them to schedule, install a crew rest, and get the place moving again. The next CEO has one heck of a task ahead of her.

old freightdog 19th May 2023 10:25


Originally Posted by MK 4A Tank (Post 11436962)
Just like Air NZ wet leasing an Airbus from Europe - false promises to customers that all aircraft and crew would be fully trained for business!!

Are we comparing Finnair with Hi Fly now? Cheap way out for QF in relation to poor strategy, but the hard & soft product on AY may just be a breath of fresh air for the SLF ....

gordonfvckingramsay 19th May 2023 10:54

This is a definitive admission by QF that they have no strategic plan going forward. Someone suggested in another post that the post COVID growth was impossible to foresee, plenty of other airlines did and QF didn’t.

I hope public get a look at these aircraft and realise what travelling should be like.

VR-HFX 19th May 2023 10:56

Joyce has very deliberately focussed on share price and bonus metrics for the past 10 years. This has meant that international market share and capital investment in a/c and staff has been so low on the priority list as to be a non-sequitur to all the pronouncements from mumble castle. As of December 2022, Joyce had a higher net worth than the company he has plundered. We, as Australian taxpayers and voters, have let this happen.

Slippery_Pete 19th May 2023 10:59

Leprechaun strikes again, to be sure to be sure.

Pity he cancelled 65 x 787 orders to get the share price up for his personal bonus benefits.

What’s your union doing about it?

dragon man 19th May 2023 11:03

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gordonfvckingramsay 19th May 2023 11:29


Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete (Post 11437078)

What’s your union doing about it?

The unions can’t and won’t act without individuals poking their head above the parapet. They effectively protect the company by acting this way.

Beer Baron 19th May 2023 11:58


Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay (Post 11437088)
The unions can’t and won’t act without individuals poking their head above the parapet. They effectively protect the company by acting this way.

The unions can’t do much outside a bargaining period as you lose the P in PIA. The LH EA still has over a year to run.
Directing members to put their jobs and finances at risk will not win the day.

tossbag 19th May 2023 12:29


Someone suggested in another post that the post COVID growth was impossible to foresee, plenty of other airlines did and QF didn’t.
If you're talking about my post, you need to re-read it and inject the sarcasm that it was written with. The stats/figures are there, after every global shock there has been growth greater than before the shock. I'd say Qantas management are pathetic but they're not really are they? They've all benefitted very well financially thank you very much, at the expense of your fleet. You've got to ask yourself how these arseclowns have hoodwinked their remuneration to greater levels than anywhere else in the world. Compare it to any CEO in the States and compare the fleet growth.

Qantas is a laughing stock, barely an international airline anymore, content to rip domestic customers off rather than grow.

soseg 19th May 2023 13:41


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11437035)
I doubt many care. I mean, it’s only become about because they are so underinvested in the International space. Failures in the fleet planning department and so on, we could talk about that for years.

Qantas International is still vulnerable due to its small size. They should have three times the amount of 787s, they keep talking about these two magic routes to London and New York, two routes, not starting for years. Qatar, Etihad et al have launched how many new routes in the last few months?

United are coming for the Pacific traffic. Not sure what the plan is in that space. Asia is also weak. Pull those 788s away from its low cost sibling who can barely run them to schedule, install a crew rest, and get the place moving again. The next CEO has one heck of a task ahead of her.

Can't install a crew rest in those JQ 788s. The way they've come out of the factory means it cannot be done.

puff 20th May 2023 01:10


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11437149)
Can't install a crew rest in those JQ 788s. The way they've come out of the factory means it cannot be done.

Who needs crew rest - a J class seat for the pilots and some blocked off Y seats for the (kiwi) cabin crew and bobs your uncle !

Ken Borough 20th May 2023 03:22


Originally Posted by soseg (Post 11437149)
Can't install a crew rest in those JQ 788s. The way they've come out of the factory means it cannot be done.

Would it be impossible to fit a crew rest that’s similar to that used on the 767s?

SOPS 20th May 2023 04:06


Originally Posted by tossbag (Post 11437121)
If you're talking about my post, you need to re-read it and inject the sarcasm that it was written with. The stats/figures are there, after every global shock there has been growth greater than before the shock. I'd say Qantas management are pathetic but they're not really are they? They've all benefitted very well financially thank you very much, at the expense of your fleet. You've got to ask yourself how these arseclowns have hoodwinked their remuneration to greater levels than anywhere else in the world. Compare it to any CEO in the States and compare the fleet growth.

Qantas is a laughing stock, barely an international airline anymore, content to rip domestic customers off rather than grow.

I think we are about to see what a cluster Alan has left behind.


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