QF Finnair Wet Lease
 

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This is sure to be popular...

QF/Finnair A330 Wetlease
 

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...s-finnair-a330

So AJs lack of investment in expansion and fleet renewal will be his lasting legacy,

How sad.

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What Joyce doesn’t say is that it’s to replace the two 330s that have gone to be converted to freighters and that has lowered the divisor for his own 330 pilots as well as assigning leave to 787 pilots. A total failure of management, but you would not expect anything less.

Wait, who will be flying these leased machines?

Finn

Definitely a win for passengers. Better hard product and service. Well that’s the sad bit actually.

Depends if they get the 330's with the AirLounge. I'd say Finnair would be flogging off the ones that haven't been refurb'd yet.

Certainly is the new birds. Perhaps they might learn a few things, on how product and service is done right. The bit around training Finn staff on ‘Qantas customer service’ standards is highly insulting.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...s-finnair-a330

Who is operating the new BNE-WLG flights announced today in the E190?

Alliance?

Yea that’s what I suspected, not sure an aircraft with no IFE is a great choice in the Tasman.

They'll say Alliance until the 220s are ready.

Wet leased crew from Finnair for 2 years.

Then in two years time the lease becomes dry, and QF pilots and cabin crew will operate those extra 2 aircraft.

Or will it be a QF crewing company, utilising Australian contractors for 3 years.

Reminds me of the 767 deal a few years ago.

Thread hijack! :=​​​​​​​

​​​​​​​It is all related isn’t it? Qantas flying farmed out.

My god, demand for travel post covid is back stronger than pre covid. I defy any of you to have predicted this, what responsible business does, particularly in the airline industry is wait for the demand to be confirmed by other airline stats, then order a few aircraft that take 5 or 6 years to be delivered. The other airlines will look after your customers til then, no probs. The aircraft will arrive just in time for the next manufactured global crisis. Qantas business planning 101.

190s to NZ have nothing to do with Finnair A330s. Unless you just want a "Qantas" thread.

Well as a frequent traveller in Finnair their aircraft are more comfortable than the Qantas product so maybe this will drive good change.

Just like Air NZ wet leasing an Airbus from Europe - false promises to customers that all aircraft and crew would be fully trained for business!!

Singapore Airlines - just declared millions $$$$$$$ profit.

Or maybe Qantas passengers will vanish into Finnair?

Wamos Air 173 operating for Air NZ Auckland to Perth!! (Airbus A330-200) Wet Lease.

Singapore Airlines after their record profit, gave a bonus to all staff, of around 8 months pay.

and the announcement of Direct entry captains. Hooray!

Carefull, Capn Bloggs will be onto you about thread hijacking,

Why would you expect any different. They talk the talk about loyalty but never walk it.

I doubt many care. I mean, it’s only become about because they are so underinvested in the International space. Failures in the fleet planning department and so on, we could talk about that for years.

Qantas International is still vulnerable due to its small size. They should have three times the amount of 787s, they keep talking about these two magic routes to London and New York, two routes, not starting for years. Qatar, Etihad et al have launched how many new routes in the last few months?

United are coming for the Pacific traffic. Not sure what the plan is in that space. Asia is also weak. Pull those 788s away from its low cost sibling who can barely run them to schedule, install a crew rest, and get the place moving again. The next CEO has one heck of a task ahead of her.

Are we comparing Finnair with Hi Fly now? Cheap way out for QF in relation to poor strategy, but the hard & soft product on AY may just be a breath of fresh air for the SLF ....

This is a definitive admission by QF that they have no strategic plan going forward. Someone suggested in another post that the post COVID growth was impossible to foresee, plenty of other airlines did and QF didn’t.

I hope public get a look at these aircraft and realise what travelling should be like.

Joyce has very deliberately focussed on share price and bonus metrics for the past 10 years. This has meant that international market share and capital investment in a/c and staff has been so low on the priority list as to be a non-sequitur to all the pronouncements from mumble castle. As of December 2022, Joyce had a higher net worth than the company he has plundered. We, as Australian taxpayers and voters, have let this happen.

Leprechaun strikes again, to be sure to be sure.

Pity he cancelled 65 x 787 orders to get the share price up for his personal bonus benefits.

What’s your union doing about it?

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The unions can’t and won’t act without individuals poking their head above the parapet. They effectively protect the company by acting this way.

The unions can’t do much outside a bargaining period as you lose the P in PIA. The LH EA still has over a year to run.
Directing members to put their jobs and finances at risk will not win the day.

If you're talking about my post, you need to re-read it and inject the sarcasm that it was written with. The stats/figures are there, after every global shock there has been growth greater than before the shock. I'd say Qantas management are pathetic but they're not really are they? They've all benefitted very well financially thank you very much, at the expense of your fleet. You've got to ask yourself how these arseclowns have hoodwinked their remuneration to greater levels than anywhere else in the world. Compare it to any CEO in the States and compare the fleet growth.

Qantas is a laughing stock, barely an international airline anymore, content to rip domestic customers off rather than grow.

Can't install a crew rest in those JQ 788s. The way they've come out of the factory means it cannot be done.

Who needs crew rest - a J class seat for the pilots and some blocked off Y seats for the (kiwi) cabin crew and bobs your uncle !

Would it be impossible to fit a crew rest that’s similar to that used on the 767s?

I think we are about to see what a cluster Alan has left behind.