Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11322890)
In the real world they don't have permanent FOs...
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Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11322890)
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you. |
Originally Posted by kingRB
(Post 11322889)
what was she alleging was the basis of the discrimination then?
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https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...p5dUFNiKdOMxyw
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment. |
Originally Posted by Kennytheking
(Post 11322896)
https://www.travelweekly.com.au/arti...p5dUFNiKdOMxyw
Probably not PC but I'm gonna call BS on the sexual harrasment. |
Newscorp claim the events occurred 20-25 years ago.
ANYHOO, this is what she is after. Qantas will hire female suitable pilots as they become available. You cannot go and just hire for the sake of a quota. It is being made out like the place is falling apart due lack of female pilots. I can tell you, it is not. Sure it would be great to see an increase, but if they are not available they are not available. They are not appearing at recruitment drives, go back further in the food chain if you want to make an impact on female quotas in this industry, that is where it all starts. She is asking the Federal Court to award her a pecuniary penalty and for Qantas to receive a monetary fine for the alleged harassment and discrimination she endured and urges the airline to increase its number of female pilots. |
Originally Posted by tossbag
(Post 11322868)
23 years an FO, that normal?
Yes, you could take a minimum time upgrade (if that was your desire) and basically give away control of your life for the next 6-10 years. The other drawback was that if you went for a command on, say, the 737 and failed, you’re now a 737 FO for a couple of years (with the associated pay drop that that could entail). Nobody intends to fail when they attempt an upgrade but some do, and you’d be an idiot if you didn’t consider the financial consequences of not making the grade. Qantas couldn’t really give a toss if somebody decides to forego promotion and preserve their lifestyle and financial stability. A few old former cadets who’ve never known anything but Qantas may grumble about “lifestylers”, but as long as all the required seats are occupied, management couldn’t care less. The Qantas contract is an unwieldy piece of crap, but at least it (currently) allows you to make your own decisions regarding attempts at promotion. |
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11322897)
And right here we see why we are consider a group of old, white knuckle-dragging dinosaurs.
damn bro slow down. You're gonna break the internet if you keep squeezing any harder for that crumb of virtue |
Sexual harassment and discrimination have definitely happened at QF. As in most other workplaces. If you don’t believe it, you are probably part of the problem.
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Originally Posted by Sprite
(Post 11322919)
Sexual harassment and discrimination have definitely happened at QF. As in most other workplaces. If you don’t believe it, you are probably part of the problem.
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator). |
Originally Posted by twentyelevens
(Post 11322933)
Believe!!!!!!
(Or you’re probs a sexual predator). |
Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11322890)
HUGE DIFFERENCE between PERMANENT FOs and those waiting 20 something years for a command vacancy to come up. Two totally different issues., but you missed that.
Obviously you know very little about the Airline industry outside of your bubble, banging on about QF Cabon( sic) managers and your mates from Ansett etc. In the real world they don't have permanent FOs, that was the point. No one mention gender but you. |
Originally Posted by Sprite
(Post 11322937)
Dumb response.
If using your words is dumb, It kinda proves the point I was making. Have a great day, and try not to offend yourself by whatever else you happen to say. |
Originally Posted by twentyelevens
(Post 11322941)
Sensitive aren’t we. I just used your words buddy.
If using your words is dumb, It kinda proves the point I was making. Have a great day, and try not to offend yourself by whatever else you happen to say. |
Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11322948)
All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I know I've seen instances of harassement where I SHOULD have said and done more. Bystanders denying it happens is an integral weapon in the harassers arsenal
Believe!!!!!! (Or you’re probs a sexual predator) You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together. You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad. |
Originally Posted by kingRB
(Post 11322913)
damn bro slow down. You're gonna break the internet if you keep squeezing any harder for that crumb of virtue
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Originally Posted by Wizofoz
(Post 11322948)
All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. I know I've seen instances of harassement where I SHOULD have said and done more. Bystanders denying it happens is an integral weapon in the harassers arsenal
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Originally Posted by twentyelevens
(Post 11322952)
So a different version of:
Believe!!!!!! (Or you’re probs a sexual predator) You and Sprite should hook up and be miserable together. You have a better day too ok? It’s not all that bad. |
Qantas HR investigated the claims and cleared all of the accused parties of any wrongdoing and has cleared them to return to their duties.
Guaranteed if QF HR could find anything untoward it would have been pursued with great gusto in my opinion. Some good people have had their reputations dragged through the mud and have been exonerated. Sadly, people allowed that to happen and the chief amongst them has lost any sliver of respect that may have been left. The person who made the allegations is not back flying. Draw your own conclusions. |
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