Originally Posted by cloudsurfng (Post 11041351)

I’m sure it won’t be long until a proper legal challenge is mounted. Keeping families apart, especially from lower risk countries AND if you and your family are vaccinated must be against some kind of law.

Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 11041406)

When my grandmother came to Australia in her 20s she never saw her parents again. Within Australia’s immigrant history the immigrants knew that coming here meant more or less cutting the rope and many never returned to their country of origin. Visiting family overseas a couple of times a year is a very recent phenomenon, really only in the last 20 years.

The reason we can’t leave is because people leave and then cry they can’t readily come back (see just about everyone in India who wants to return).

Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 11041406)

When my grandmother came to Australia in her 20s she never saw her parents again. Within Australia’s immigrant history the immigrants knew that coming here meant more or less cutting the rope and many never returned to their country of origin. Visiting family overseas a couple of times a year is a very recent phenomenon, really only in the last 20 years.

The reason we can’t leave is because people leave and then cry they can’t readily come back (see just about everyone in India who wants to return).

Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11041371)

Glad international students are being kept out. They are a main reason wages haven’t increased for 20 years. Endless supply of graduates who are tied to their employer due to visa requirements. They are also a major source of immigration which is destroying Sydney and Melbourne. The university sector isn’t educating them as much as simply selling citizenship via university courses. Which they seem to be able to acquire, up to masters level without even having basic functional English. Yes I have had to take over work for such a person in addition to what I already had to do because they couldn’t write English. Incredible given assignments and exams are in English. Oh, but assignments are all group, ensuring at least one local is included who ends up doing all the work. As for exams, can’t fail them or else they might complain and the university would get a bad reputation amongst international students and they would go elsewhere, ending the rivers of gold. So to hell with the ‘education’ aka citizenship selling sector. The Australian economy needs to grow up. If all we do is dig **** out of the ground, sell citizenship and build crappy dog box apartment blocks to house them then we are doomed anyway.

rant over.

Originally Posted by t_cas (Post 11041412)

wasn’t the premise of long service leave to allow poms to return on the long voyage for family reunions……

Originally Posted by cloudsurfng (Post 11041417)

as is their right. And the removal of this right is bound to be challenged.

Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11041437)

That's an interesting take on the situation. I guess visa holders would be more inclined to take a lower wage as opposed to having to go to their origin country.

Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 11041379)

No useful work for the aircraft they fly.

same reason LH are stood down while QLink are interviewing for externals

Originally Posted by KRUSTY 34 (Post 11041511)

You know, in an enlightened and employee engaged workplace it would make sense to at least offer redeployment to those who have had their lives turned upside down. After all they’re already in the system, with all the associated skills and clearances. Certainly way ahead of anyone off the street.

Just work down the LH Seniority list and perhaps put in some “return of service” provisos?

I mean it’s not Rocket Science.

Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 11041531)

They also need to make sure they have the right people for the job. Being part of the group doesn’t automatically make you “way ahead of anyone off the street.”

Originally Posted by SDN Superstar (Post 11041542)

I’ll bet the Brisbane based Q400 Captains would rather a group A3something or a 7whatever pilot over more QFPP...

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/aust...s-academy/amp/

Originally Posted by SDN Superstar (Post 11041542)

I’ll bet the Brisbane based Q400 Captains would rather a group A3something or a 7whatever pilot over more QFPP...

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/aust...s-academy/amp/

Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11041464)

students, especially Chinese study here with the sole intention of staying, ie migrating here. They have limited knowledge of wage levels here and are desperate to stay. And competition is strong with the numbers of graduates our kolleges of nollege are churning out.

then you have 457 visa holders. Many come from India for IT or finance positions. I was involved in offshoring jobs to India about 10 years ago. Jobs paying 70 to 80k here were 13 to 15 k in India, 120 to 130k manager roles here, 30k in India. So they come here on a 457 , get offered 100k, a fortune to them but 20 to 30k below market rates. Employers know this so advertise roles at 100k, nobody applies as it is below market rates. Employers cry no skilled workers…. And of course 457 visa holders are sponsored so need to stay with that employer, or find another employer that is willing to sponsor them, more difficult to move roles.
fhen you have zero wage internships that foreign graduates take out of desperation. Basically working around 6 months for nothing after they graduate to get SOME experience. Often these companies are owned by Chinese so they exploit their own.

Originally Posted by Street garbage (Post 11041488)

So ironical that the Chief Pilot (yes we have one!!) puts out an email asking us to pretty please...please...do the Survey (because no one has done it) the same day that more flying is outsourced....

Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11041873)

I guess they have used lines to tug at your heart strings such as 'we need your input because we want to do better'!
Dont get fooled.

Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11041899)

Or alternatively, do the survey and tell them exactly how you feel when you see flying being outsourced (bye bye future Mainline SH commands), while you collect $934/fortnight in govmint money and get an email every 8 weeks telling you there is no useful work.