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ruprecht 18th Feb 2021 05:01


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 10992599)
On the other hand the 787 (and 330) will be first to have all pilots stood back up so training can commence.

Displce to the 380 all you like, it ain’t coming back for much longer.


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Telfer86 18th Feb 2021 05:42

There is no international flying now & there won't be any this year

Likely it would take a couple of years for all 787/330 crews to be consistently stood up
, assuming no hiccups , no further shut down of international travel etc etc

So that is three years away from now - all going very well & why an earth would you assume it
will all just go swimmingly ?

It will be at least an order of magnitude more complex and challenging than getting (& keeping) Australia's domestic borders open

Nobody is doing anyone any favours by claiming it will all be over by Christmas

Stood down / unemployed crew have a real opportunity(ie: two to four years) to reskill/ requalify in other areas if they desire

The RIN is years away & I think you would be pretty naïve to think that is how QF will proceed, it ain't the CP who makes that call



OnceBitten 18th Feb 2021 05:59


Originally Posted by maggot (Post 10992596)
just remember folks, getting 'displaced' doesnt mean you get booted. It just gets you onto the fleet, should the co wish to domino it they must repeat the process.

most will end up on the 787 at a guess, or the juniors on the 330. I'd be surprised if any stripes were lost unless a stubborn LOP is submitted.

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What Maggot said. I wouldn't over think it, it's probably the most straight forward rin we have actually had.

maggot 18th Feb 2021 06:24


Originally Posted by Telfer86 (Post 10992613)
There is no international flying now & there won't be any this year

Likely it would take a couple of years for all 787/330 crews to be consistently stood up
, assuming no hiccups , no further shut down of international travel etc etc

So that is three years away from now - all going very well & why an earth would you assume it
will all just go swimmingly ?

It will be at least an order of magnitude more complex and challenging than getting (& keeping) Australia's domestic borders open

Nobody is doing anyone any favours by claiming it will all be over by Christmas

Stood down / unemployed crew have a real opportunity(ie: two to four years) to reskill/ requalify in other areas if they desire

The RIN is years away & I think you would be pretty naïve to think that is how QF will proceed, it ain't the CP who makes that call

you have NFI here. Its happening and its a needed papershuffle at this point.

its literally published and needs to be addressed. Getting RINned sucks no matter what.

STFU

Telfer86 18th Feb 2021 13:48

Well if you believe its a RIN because the execs say that is a matter for you
Did you also believe the shrieking excitable claims by some of the execs back to 80% by July , back to 80% by December , the A380s will come back, we will order 350s
at the end of 2021
My definition of a RIN is that you go off to train & fly a new airplane

Keg 18th Feb 2021 20:46

Don’t feed the troll!

Fujiroll76 18th Feb 2021 21:12


Originally Posted by Telfer86 (Post 10992897)
Well if you believe its a RIN because the execs say that is a matter for you
Did you also believe the shrieking excitable claims by some of the execs back to 80% by July , back to 80% by December , the A380s will come back, we will order 350s
at the end of 2021
My definition of a RIN is that you go off to train & fly a new airplane

Just wondering if anyone cares about your definition of a RIN?

Anyone?

Hello?

No didn’t think so. Bye bye

Street garbage 18th Feb 2021 22:00

So the 90 odd named in the NFS FSO shouldn"t update their LOP, they shouldn't read clause 18 of EBA10, shouldn't ring AIPA and gather more information......because the FSO doesn't meet Telfers' definition of a RIN.
As the above posts say Telfer, go away, troll somewhere else, you are just embarrassing yourself, some of us have been through a RIN and can offer advice...instead of shouting "there is no RIN! There is no RIN!".

Fear, uncertainty, doubt. That's all you've got.

Street garbage 18th Feb 2021 22:05


Originally Posted by Fujiroll76 (Post 10993109)
Just wondering if anyone cares about your definition of a RIN?

Anyone?

Hello?

No didn’t think so. Bye bye

Plus 1..Gold mate.


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