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theSOD 13th Jun 2020 02:40

Looks like CHC may be gearing up for more international travel.

I am currently serving day number 5/14 of quarantine in Auckland. Customs have just notified me that they are busy arranging a charter flight for those who's home is in the South Island and that a new quarantine facility in Chirstchurch has been opened. Auckland is probably reaching capacity quickly and with the add of the Tokyo service to AKL and the SQ service to CHC it was only a matter of time.

This would be a great start to getting Aussie travellers in to the South Island much quicker if more flights are being established and the bubble is approved

TT738 14th Jun 2020 14:48

just saw the longest TV ad ever for Japanese skiing. Someone knows something. You don't spend big bucks on TV ads unless you've got something to sell.

morno 14th Jun 2020 15:28


Originally Posted by TT738 (Post 10810764)
just saw the longest TV ad ever for Japanese skiing. Someone knows something. You don't spend big bucks on TV ads unless you've got something to sell.

Probably just a marketing company who thought advertising was a good idea. Doesnít mean anything.

TT738 14th Jun 2020 23:42


Originally Posted by morno (Post 10810783)
Probably just a marketing company who thought advertising was a good idea. Doesn’t mean anything.

or, more probably, someone at Japanese &/or Australian govt level has told them international border between Australia & Japan will be open in Sept without any restrictions. You don't spend millions on TV ads on a whim.

BTW, saw the ad which must have run for 90 seconds, 3 times in the one movie last night.

Look on the bright side, MORE WORK FOR PILOTS !!!!

Also, Qld govt can't decide to open border with NSW on July 10, maybe sooner. The overpaid public servants, as usual, can't make any decision.

morno 15th Jun 2020 11:16

Haha, you're dreaming buddy. Get back to your travel agency

Asturias56 15th Jun 2020 18:21

Tahiti full reopening to tourism from 15th July - subject to testing, masks etc etc

Bad Adventures 16th Jun 2020 06:23

Air New Zealand back into Japan.

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...-narita-route/

Australopithecus 16th Jun 2020 07:09

New Zealand recorded two new cases today out of the blue. Both were visitors from the UK allowed in on compassionate grounds. Unfortunately they were allowed to travel by automobile, so another trace and isolate exercise will be necessary. Which will, I am sure, be a bucket of cold water on hasty plans to open any bubbles.

segfault 16th Jun 2020 08:06


Originally Posted by Australopithecus (Post 10812034)
New Zealand recorded two new cases today out of the blue. Both were visitors from the UK allowed in on compassionate grounds. Unfortunately they were allowed to travel by automobile, so another trace and isolate exercise will be necessary. Which will, I am sure, be a bucket of cold water on hasty plans to open any bubbles.

It happened to South Australia as well and I question the judgement of people who decide these cases. A large number of foreign arrivals in Victoria are turning out to be covid positive. We should take that as a warning.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 16th Jun 2020 09:31

Well, WA is still 'closed' at the borders.....Don't know for how much longer though.

WA Premier not sayin' much in the way of a 'timeline'.......

Cheers

Ragnor 16th Jun 2020 09:48

As long as QLD, Tasmania and SA open up who cares what WA does.

kingRB 16th Jun 2020 11:35

SA's borders now reopen to WA/NT/TAS

Asturias56 16th Jun 2020 17:22

Until there is a vaccine you'll continue to get cases unless you shut down ALL (no exceptions) international travel until there is a vaccine - a few cases, especially if they aren't life threatening, may be the price you pay to save the economy.

PilotLZ 16th Jun 2020 19:15

You don't even need to shut down all international travel. Community transmission always remains a possibility because nobody can guarantee that zero recorded cases equal zero real cases. No country can test all its population even once, let alone on a regular basis, to eliminate any possibility of some dormant asymptomatic case somewhere. So, the inherent risks of people mixing up remain as the price to be paid for a functional society (hence, functional economy).

Australopithecus 16th Jun 2020 22:53


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10812500)
Until there is a vaccine you'll continue to get cases unless you shut down ALL (no exceptions) international travel until there is a vaccine - a few cases, especially if they aren't life threatening, may be the price you pay to save the economy.

But how do you predict which cases are going to be fatal, which visitor is a super spreader, what clusters will result?
There are some very bad long term outcomes for some survivors of Covid-19 that donít seem to be part of the discussion either.

It appears that elements of the public have decided that economic bounty trumps public health. So far even the worst of the pandemic has occurred with social awareness and social controls to one degree or another. If we are going to ignore those then the second wave will be much worse than the first.

Ragnor 17th Jun 2020 00:36

Well with Victoria now recording increasing numbers 21 today I doubt anyone will be letting them into their state. Hope a certain protest group are proud of them selfs.

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 17th Jun 2020 00:54


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10812856)
Well with Victoria now recording increasing numbers 21 today I doubt anyone will be letting them into their state. Hope a certain protest group are proud of them selfs.

15 of those are returned travellers in hotel quarantine, so the headlines are a little misleading.

ozbiggles 17th Jun 2020 01:19

What the Victorian figures do show is a relatively high rate of people returning from overseas do have this virus which means it will be even less likely international travel will kick off anytime soon outside the bubble.

Pundit 17th Jun 2020 01:22

Ragnor the protestors have nothing to do with the current increasing numbers. Their impact is still 7 days away

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 17th Jun 2020 01:30


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 10812880)
What the Victorian figures do show is a relatively high rate of people returning from overseas do have this virus which means it will be even less likely international travel will kick off anytime soon outside the bubble.

I heard a figure of 4% of returned travellers are testing positive to COVID


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