Palachook loves all this. Those nasty Liberal bullies can't tell HER what to do!

Stopping severe illness is the point.

The rollout has barely started. The vaccinated numbers at this point in time are only 12% of where the federal government predicted they would be by now. As seen not even those who are coming into contact with Covid cases have all been fully vaccinated.

As far as wider ranging immunity goes that will take longer. At least until the critical populations in 1B and 2A are fully vaccinated. Local production is only just starting, and you need two shots dispersed by 3 months. So expect a similar reaction til around August/September.

International travel won’t resume until basic herd immunity is reached. Previously this was thought to be around 70%, in Israel however they’re seeing that maybe 55% is enough.

Yes the vaccine is a game changer, but it has to be injected into people to work. The effectiveness of vaccines sitting in storage containers is 0%. It won’t be too much higher if plenty of critical groups continue to be allowed to choose not to be vaccinated too.

I can’t believe there doesn’t seem to have been a structured program to actively pursue and arrange vaccinations for medical staff as a top priority! The number of times I’ve heard them say the doctor/nurse/health worker had not been vaccinated yet astounds me.
Instead of wasting it on photo ops for our useless, expendable politicians, why weren’t these people done first? Yes I know they were nominated in the first phase but I can’t see any structured prioritising. Just seems up to the individual. For once I’ll agree with you dr Dre, get the jab or stop practising as a medical professional.

I think the problem is the supply of the vaccine not the reluctance of the medical profession to not get it! So maybe the real problem lies with the Federal Government!!

Ask Chris Hemsworth to get a jab for a promo shoot. That'll motivate a few more people perhaps. Even Thor needs the vaccine. Mind you he lives in Byron.......

Which is why I said stop wasting even a single dose on those photo-opportunistic politicians ... of all pursuasions. (Replying to cynphil)

A new study by the CDC shows that a single dose provides an 80% reduction in the risk of infection, not just illness. The second dose improves that again.

"Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status; vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization (≥14 days after first dose but before second dose) was 80%."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm

Ah yes the photo opportunities,applauding each other,smiling for each other & back slapping their high flying party supporters meanwhile they have absolutely no idea how to roll out a vaccination schedule.
How good was he making himself look with his now useless 1/2 price airfare stunt,his salary wont get affected,thats for sure.

Meanwhile......

new-covid-vaccines-needed-within-year-say-scientists

Same time next year?

I’m starting to doubt I’ll be receiving the first dose this year!

This is why I cant see the intl border opening this year, too many new variants with unknown vaccine effectiveness - particularly Brazilian and South African variants

Lots of “could”s and fluffy language in that article.. I wouldn’t be too concerned considering the source!

You do know that any headline with the generic word Scientists in it is going to be bull****, right?

Yep lets get that 99.1% survival rate up to 99.2%

And what were the symptoms? How bad? Which 147 patients? Why them?
A story has a lot of parts to it.

i dont disagree, but here is a forum for people needing class 1 medical cert, are you willing to take the chance? (Im not talking for post vaccination)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53196009

i know this is only 1 example, but he'll never fly again

Not completely dissimilar to glandular fever. However, I don't believe we bankrupt the nation for that.

Doctors like certainty (that's not a criticism) but certainties involve zero risk. Nothing we do is without risk - if we always listened to doctors we'd all be teetotal vegan cyclists that never leave the house.

It's never been about the ~1% fatality rate.

Say these three words slowly. Overloaded. Health. System.

The peak of many waves in various countries has brought several first world health systems crashing to a halt.

When every ICU bed is full and ventilator occupied, and you have a car crash and need intubating... what then? Plenty of people are admitted to ICU each day without COVID. They would likely die under an overloaded health system.

We don't have lockdowns for glandular fever as is not really contagious, unless sucking face, so it will never overload the health system.

Maybe people should listen to those Paris doctors who just yesterday took out an ad in the paper to say that before long it is likely that they will have to triage who lives and dies, with or without COVID.

So why are we taking back Australians from overseas? Hotel quarantine is, either directly or indirectly, responsible for all new cases and has been since May/June last year. So what activities are aimed at reducing overloaded health system, and which aren't?

Try saying these three words slowly. Health.Needs.Funding