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Pavement 28th Oct 2020 01:38


Originally Posted by SpyderPig (Post 10912752)
That’ll be VARAs number is up too. 10 of their RPT routes in the west are on that list, another 100 odd pilots about to be on the street

VA is flying all of the WA RPT routes with B738. VARA is just doing the FIFO charters.

SpyderPig 28th Oct 2020 02:36


Originally Posted by Pavement (Post 10913140)
VA is flying all of the WA RPT routes with B738. VARA is just doing the FIFO charters.

Those routes were all served by VARA pre covid with a mix of 737 also. VA then assumed all the rpt to keep crew current on the government subsided routes and VARA now does zero rpt and has stood some F100 crew down to 50%. Doesn't sound too bad but somehow VARA doesn’t qualify for jobkeeper so there’s no top up coming for them. Not sure how that worked but that’s what I’ve been told

galdian 28th Oct 2020 03:22


Originally Posted by VH DSJ (Post 10913122)
They don't need to of course, but considering this,



and how the industry generally works, you'd think the ex VA Ejet drivers stand a good chance.

Like REX Alliance need to set up the top of the pyramid with CASA delegations/approvals, C&T quals etc and ex VA JJ are the obvious primary source.

They then could continue and just take on JJ rated ex VA, whether simply "bolting on" the VA mentality, methodology and rational to Alliance could be the best thing to do or the worst - depends on personal perspective.

Like REX Alliance presently they have an oversupply of experienced pilots to chose from, up to them to decide what/who should work out best for them....and why.

Cheers



Renton Field 28th Oct 2020 03:37


Originally Posted by galdian (Post 10913164)

They then could continue and just take on JJ rated ex VA, whether simply "bolting on" the VA mentality, methodology and rational to Alliance could be the best thing to do or the worst - depends on personal perspective.

What’s this ‘mentality,methodology and rationale’ that VA allegedly have?
Operationally the culture is sound.I think you’ll find a considerably different ‘mentality’ amongst the pilot group than that in the (ex) Village.
The two I know that have gone over would both be amongst the best operators you’d find.
Alliance could do a lot worse than bolting on some of that.
Like you said,personal perspective..

getaway 28th Oct 2020 04:39

Could Alliance fly some international routes with E-jets for Virgin Mark 2 ?

If so where to ?

Don't think their F100s can make NZ/Fiji nonstop with a full load, but can the Alliance e-jets ?

Some former Virgin Mark 1 routes like BNE/DUD, NTL/AKL etc. might be perfect for the e-jets.

wheels_down 28th Oct 2020 05:36

They are. Ballarat to Tehran. Via Indonesia, Thailand and India.

Square Bear 28th Oct 2020 09:02

“Don't think their F100s can make NZ/Fiji nonstop”...........could barely do Norfolk Island!

Embraer, no idea.

Section28- BE 28th Oct 2020 09:42


Originally Posted by wheels_down (Post 10913186)
They are. Ballarat to Tehran. Via Indonesia, Thailand and India.

Hmmmm- Fantastic, Insider Trade (/ing) Intelligence you have, 'right' there Mr 'Wheels'......

Mate, What- have, you 'heard'/or are you "feeling/& absorbing" ref: HNL via HIR and then a Flat-Top........????? don't know why or the purpose, probably crap info..... and 'sources' on my part!!!!.

rgds all/be well
S28- BE

rattman 28th Oct 2020 10:40


Originally Posted by getaway (Post 10913177)
Don't think their F100s can make NZ/Fiji nonstop with a full load, but can the Alliance e-jets ?

Dont know the loading of the plane in question but a chartered F100 flew the NZ warriors from NZ to sydney when the NRL restarted

arrow28 28th Oct 2020 12:03

With the recent tie up of Alliance and Virgin does that mean all the E190 slots will go to ex Virgin E190 pilots? Knowing how mates employ mates does that mean very few Alliance F100 pilots will get a position on the 190??

Climb150 28th Oct 2020 13:48


Originally Posted by arrow28 (Post 10913431)
With the recent tie up of Alliance and Virgin does that mean all the E190 slots will go to ex Virgin E190 pilots? Knowing how mates employ mates does that mean very few Alliance F100 pilots will get a position on the 190??

If you look back a whopping 13 posts you will notice this has already been asked.

ifylofd 28th Oct 2020 14:13

Ex Airnorth
 

Originally Posted by VH DSJ (Post 10913122)
They don't need to of course, but considering this,



and how the industry generally works, you'd think the ex VA Ejet drivers stand a good chance.

Some mail from over in the West suggests there is some guy who thinks he's running VARA seems to know a thing or three about Ejets - just ask him - so why wouldn't they have tapped that genius resource??? (once again - just ask him - apparently the lads and lassies say the sort of guy who just knows, well, everything)



mgahan 28th Oct 2020 21:19

Just got the ETA for the last refuel stop for the first delivery - 0033.

MJG

Green.Dot 28th Oct 2020 21:44


Originally Posted by ifylofd (Post 10913520)
Some mail from over in the West suggests there is some guy who thinks he's running VARA seems to know a thing or three about Ejets - just ask him - so why wouldn't they have tapped that genius resource??? (once again - just ask him - apparently the lads and lassies say the sort of guy who just knows, well, everything)

Must be GT?

Zinfandel 28th Oct 2020 22:01

The E190 would do the majority of the flying under the proposed agreement with Virgin. The E190 has the legs to do BNE-HIR and my guess this route wouldn’t start until around April next year.

Most of the proposed and some of the former wet lease routes were previously operated by the Virgin E190s.

Alliance will be Virgin's Cobham.

ebt 29th Oct 2020 01:06


Originally Posted by Zinfandel (Post 10913834)
The E190 would do the majority of the flying under the proposed agreement with Virgin. The E190 has the legs to do BNE-HIR and my guess this route wouldn’t start until around April next year.

Most of the proposed and some of the former wet lease routes were previously operated by the Virgin E190s.

Alliance will be Virgin's Cobham.

Difference being that Alliance has a lot more of its own organic business, compared to Cobham. The VA work will increase, but Alliance knows its core business is in resource charter, and they will continue to make the bulk of their money there.

mgahan 29th Oct 2020 02:35

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Roj approved 29th Oct 2020 07:40


Originally Posted by Zinfandel (Post 10913834)
Alliance will be Virgin's Cobham.

But partially owned by QF😂😂

whisperjet146 29th Oct 2020 09:35


Originally Posted by Roj approved (Post 10914051)
But partially owned by QF😂😂

🎪🤦🏼‍♂️ Isnt that still under ACCC investigation.

Icarus2001 29th Oct 2020 10:11

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-releas...ines-continues

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-releas...aises-concerns


The ACCC is continuing to investigate whether this acquisition is likely to have the effect of substantially lessening competition. Qantas has provided an undertaking not to acquire any further interest in Alliance until the investigation is completed.
Glacial pace, taking their speed cue from the ATSB.


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