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Angle of Attack 20th May 2020 07:40

Qantas mainline brings 717’s in house
 
Just heard QF have bought National Jet Systems entire 717 fleet from Cobham Aviation.
Dont have a link to a report yet, it just scrolled across on a business report I was just watching.

RENURPP 20th May 2020 07:50

It’s in the AFR

LostWanderer 20th May 2020 07:51

Does that include Cobham pilots as well or are the flying roles going to mainline?

bangbounceboeing 20th May 2020 07:51

Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

Icarus2001 20th May 2020 07:54

How can QF buy a fleet that they already own?

Jc31 20th May 2020 07:57

They aren’t going to mainline. Qantas has bought the operation and will be setting up a new entity just like network sunstate or eastern. Cobham drivers will be employed as a group entity rather than as a contractor. Good news for the Cobham guys and girls!!

kingRB 20th May 2020 07:59


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 10787497)
How can QF buy a fleet that they already own?

they bought the AOC

LostWanderer 20th May 2020 08:01


Originally Posted by Jc31 (Post 10787501)
They aren’t going to mainline. Qantas has bought the operation and will be setting up a new entity just like network sunstate or eastern. Cobham drivers will be employed as a group entity rather than as a contractor. Good news for the Cobham guys and girls!!

So there is basically no real changes, Just a different name to operate under instead of Cobham? I’m not overly familiar with their ops so maybe there is more to it.

blubak 20th May 2020 08:09


Originally Posted by Jc31 (Post 10787501)
They aren’t going to mainline. Qantas has bought the operation and will be setting up a new entity just like network sunstate or eastern. Cobham drivers will be employed as a group entity rather than as a contractor. Good news for the Cobham guys and girls!!

Mainline pay & conditions??😫

Livinthedream320 20th May 2020 08:30

Story is behind a Paywall. Can someone cut and paste it here.

Colonel_Klink 20th May 2020 08:44

I wonder what the thought process is behind QF doing this.

I would have thought the way the 717 operation is currently set up is the cheapest way of doing things. It was always easy for Cobham to say ‘No money in the contract, can’t afford pay increases’.

Or is this a brand new world where QF are going to start bringing back all that has been outsourced over the last decade and a half?.😂


WillieTheWimp 20th May 2020 08:45


Originally Posted by Livinthedream320 (Post 10787523)
Story is behind a Paywall. Can someone cut and paste it here.

Clear your cookies/internet data and try again.

Flava Saver 20th May 2020 08:52


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 10787541)
Or is this a brand new world where QF are going to start bringing back all that has been outsourced over the last decade and a half?.😂

Haha, imagine that. No more Swissport, Aerocare...all one big happy family post COVID 🤔🤣

WillieTheWimp 20th May 2020 08:53

Qantas brings regional fleet back in-house

Qantas will take the operation of 20 Boeing 717 aircraft running regional routes back in-house with the purchase of Cobham Australia's National Jet Systems.

The acquisition, which the airline announced on Wednesday afternoon, ends 15 years where National Jet Systems had operated the fleet on behalf of regional subsidiary QantasLink.

QantasLink chief executive John Gissing said the acquisition provided it more certainty for the future.

"The B717s provide us with [the] flexibility to service many segments of the domestic market, including regional routes, fly in fly out operations or more frequencies to capital cities. These are the kind of routes where travel demand is likely to recover first [from the COVID-19 pandemic]," he said.

"Importantly, this is a back-office change which our customers won't notice."

It comes after Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce laid out the airline's plans to ramp up its operations after the pandemic, which forced it to fly just 5 per cent of operational capacity on Tuesday.

At a media briefing on Tuesday, he said masks and sanitising wipes would be provided to passengers, who will also be encouraged to limit movement around the cabin.

But the middle seat will still be in use as customers begin booking flights again.

"All of these procedures, all of these changes will be in place from the 12th of June, with expectations that we could see domestic travel with border restrictions significantly resuming from July onwards," Mr Joyce said.

The acquisition also follows an internal strategic review of the operations at Cobham, which commenced in the middle of last year.

Cobham Aviation Services chairman Kim Gillis said the company was proud of its partnership with Qantas.

“This outcome is testament to the exceptional levels of service and safety the B717 pilots, cabin crew and support staff have provided to Qantas over the years – I am sure many of them will see this as being brought 'home'," she said.

Neither party disclosed the terms of the agreement. But Qantas said the deal was not material and replaced a 10-year contract for National Jet System's services signed in 2016.

Qantas will also take on National Jet System's employee liabilities, though most have been temporarily stood down like many Qantas employees during the pandemic.

Cobham will continue to operate four freighter jets on behalf of Qantas freight.




airdualbleedfault 20th May 2020 08:59


Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.
That is some funny 5hit right there, I haven't laughed so much since somebody said Rex were going to compete against Qantarse and Virging :}

The reality is a captain stubing uniform (if they don't already have one) and staff travel. Then next time anyone in the group wants a pay rise "we'll get Network/Jetstar/NJS/QLINK *enter any name here *to do it"

hillbillybob 20th May 2020 09:00


Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing (Post 10787491)
Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

why would it?

network doesn't
sunnies doesn't
eastern doesn't
EFA doesn't

Harbour Dweller 20th May 2020 09:01

Reuters - U.S. private equity group Advent buys UK's Cobham for $5 billion


Cobham also said it had started a strategic review of its aviation services business in Australia.

It was not clear how the buyout would affect the review.
It appears we have clarity now

RENURPP 20th May 2020 09:22


The reality is a captain stubing uniform (if they don't already have one) and staff travel.
had both of those for quite some time!

AmarokGTI 20th May 2020 09:51

Were any 717 crew on paid sick leave?

Section28- BE 20th May 2020 10:21

Hmmmmm 'Interesting'- Why is IT so....
 

'Qantas will take the operation of 20 Boeing 717 aircraft running regional routes back in-house.....'
They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??? and how does, the pressure-vessel/hull system work?????

Just askin :rolleyes:, got me stuffed- have a really great day.
Rgds all
S28- BE


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