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Bignose101 20th May 2020 10:24

Could you please repeat that in 'english'

altocu 20th May 2020 10:37


Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing (Post 10787491)
Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

Hilarious.

Ragnor 20th May 2020 10:52

Meet your new project sunrise crew when it gets going.

Bug Smasher Smasher 20th May 2020 10:56


Originally Posted by Section28- BE (Post 10787673)
They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??? and how does, the pressure-vessel/hull system work?????

Just askin :rolleyes:, got me stuffed- have a really great day.
Rgds all
S28- BE

Doesn’t matter. They’ll all be flying 320s soon.

Capt Fathom 20th May 2020 11:01

Maybe they’ll call it Impulse Airlines! :}

normanton 20th May 2020 11:09


Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing (Post 10787491)
Great news for the 717 drivers. Hopefully their seniority carries through onto the mainline seniority list.

HAHA!

The end of QF seniority list is not where you want to be right now.

neville_nobody 20th May 2020 11:16


They outweigh an F-Truck and there is 'only' 20x of them in 'this' Gig/Deal............., could 'one' get another gross/or more of 'em....????
Well there's a few being parked by Delta if they want some more. Maybe QF are replacing some 737 flying post covid??

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton1/2020/05/17/delta-will-cut-717-operating-fleet-by-50-67-due-to-covid-19/#4c48d5c452d2


Any idea what the big picture is here?? How many AOCs does one airline actually need? Good news for empire building management I guess they get to duplicate everything again!

aussieflyboy 20th May 2020 11:28

As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.

Transition Layer 20th May 2020 11:31

QF Management following the old expression...never waste a crisis!

As if there wasn’t enough downwards pressure on terms and conditions :*

RickNRoll 20th May 2020 11:54


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 10787740)
As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.

Network will be the 320 operator and NJS will be 717 operator. Expect a bunch more 717s over the next few years.

Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.

aussieflyboy 20th May 2020 12:00


Originally Posted by RickNRoll (Post 10787769)
Perfect. Replace a very old plane with an old plane.

The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 20th May 2020 12:08


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 10787776)
The 717s are early 2000s, same as a bunch of QFs 737s...

I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

aussieflyboy 20th May 2020 12:12


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10787780)
I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

QF was hardly going to replace them with C Series. The 717 as a replacement makes sense.


Originally Posted by Section28- BE (Post 10787673)

Does, 'anybody' still support the Propulsion & Avionics packages......??

Engines supported and still being made by Rolls (Global Express and G5) and Avionics by Honeywell (VIA2000 is in C5 Galaxy and 777)

601 20th May 2020 12:52


they bought the AOC
You cannot buy an AOC.
You have to buy the entity that has been granted the AOC.
If the entity is a natural person, the AOC cannot go anywhere as you cannot buy a person.

Blitzkrieger 20th May 2020 13:12

I think some of my friends on the 717 will sleep a little easier tonight knowing they are bound for new management and a vastly different culture. The 717 has plenty of life in it yet and so do the crews who fly them now.

industry insider 20th May 2020 13:51

Aussieflyboy


As was mentioned in another thread, the 717s are the Fokker replacement.
Ironic really since the Fokkers replaced the 717s in WA a few years ago.

B772 20th May 2020 14:11

The timing of this move could be fortuitous for QF and disastrous for VA. QF could use the the low cost B717 to compete with VA on the East Coast routes charging fares VA could not match. The ACCC would be powerless to prevent this.

Asturias56 20th May 2020 14:54

It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH

Capt Claret 20th May 2020 15:20


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10787927)
It's good news for the drivers but it really is a pretty grim aircraft - the design is well over 50 years old and so there's only a couple of Operators left - I don't think they have much passenger appeal TBH

The DC9 and 737 both started their life in 1963, so if the 717 is a grim aircraft based on its original design age, so too is the 737.

I think you might be surprised at the passenger appeal.

LostWanderer 20th May 2020 15:25


Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE (Post 10787780)
I think he meant the 717s replacing F100s

The Network F100s are early ‘90s builds.

So what happens to the F100 drivers/717 drivers in this scenario? I can’t imagine them doubling up on crews if it’s a replacement, especially how things are going to be into the future with demand.

Have they actually confirmed no redundancies for anyone?


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