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wheels_down 23rd Mar 2020 03:08

Alan vs VA
 
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce has issued a “call to action” to employees to lobby their local member of parliament to make sure smaller rival Virgin Australia gets no extra assistance to survive the current coronavirus crisis.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....d7a9826975fedd

What’s the issue here? Virgin gets a government loan. They pay it back within the specified timeframe. Qantas does not because it might still have a Billion bucks left over at the end. But it does not owe the government anything.

Its not free money, just more debt.

Alan loves competition apparently. Lives and breathes it. Well that’s what he told the ACCC.

Kiwiconehead 23rd Mar 2020 03:14

The man is a Northern Territory tourist campaign.

Sunfish 23rd Mar 2020 03:48

What a hypocritical whyte!

MELKBQF 23rd Mar 2020 03:55

What a horrible man. When we had a car manufacturing industry in this country, I never once saw the CEO Ford complaining that Toyota was given government assistance. The industry as a whole worked together.

Josh Cox 23rd Mar 2020 04:05

If the Australian Government purchased a share in VA (a new share allotment), that would knock the wind out of someones sails........(just speculating)...

777Nine 23rd Mar 2020 04:39

Wait, this is the guy that once went to the government asking for a secured loan? Pot, meet kettle.

michigan j 23rd Mar 2020 04:49


Originally Posted by 777Nine (Post 10724725)
Wait, this is the guy that once went to the government asking for a secured loan? Pot, meet kettle.

But they were only asking for a piffling $3 billion...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26445272

markontop 23rd Mar 2020 04:50

Before asking the Australian Government for a cash splash why not first ask the owners? Governments or controllers of Abu Dhabi, Singapore and China.

Stationair8 23rd Mar 2020 04:59

The other wood duck that needs a bit of a working over by VA staff is Karl Stefanovic on the Today show.
Seems to be bagging VA at every opportunity.


markontop 23rd Mar 2020 05:02

Well he would wouldn’t he. Got to keep that QANTAS club membership alive.

Dawn Patrol 23rd Mar 2020 05:12

Most of the employees would have mates in all companies across the industry. Doubt many would lobby to harm their buddies. Would hope so anyway...

dontgive2FACs 23rd Mar 2020 05:17

Certainly mean no ill for VA guys but I believe the premise of investing in the industry (ie both carriers) is completely fair.

Disregard the fact this is aviation for a moment. In these times, I wouldn’t support use of commonwealth funds to prop-up any business that had been poorly run.

Stretch06 23rd Mar 2020 05:57


Originally Posted by ampclamp (Post 10724750)
I can't see that request getting much traction from the majority of QAN employees. I think employees of all airlines here have more respect for their brothers and sisters at other airlines when times are tough than to actively seek their demise.

I agree. Doesn't matter who you are employed by at the moment, everyone is hurting. Mates across all major and minor carriers and in GA, all need to look after each other.

Paragraph377 23rd Mar 2020 06:01

Joyce is a psychopath and a self obsessed spineless toad. Psychopaths are found in greater proportions among CEOs. Between 3% and 21% of CEOs are probably psychopaths, according to a study by Bond University psychologist Nathan Brooks. The background rate of psychopathy in the normal population is about 1%. They are also gutless. Interestingly, the following CEO’s have recently stood down - IBM, Hulu, Disney, Uber, Microsoft, Nestle, T-mobile, Tinder, Juul, Harley, Nissan, MasterCard, Volkswagen, Victoria Secret, MGM, EBay Saleforce, LinkedIn and so it goes. All since December when COVID-19 started to ramp up. Why? They are taking the money and running. They can see what is coming and know that a financial ****storm of biblical proportions has landed on our doorstep.


George Glass 23rd Mar 2020 06:02

How soon people forget.
Virgin Blue buried Ansett.
Branson held a hanger party when it went bust.
AJ , whom I dislike , is simply doing what he’s paid for i.e. being the chief spruiker for his company.
He is pointing out the obvious, the same question that arose with Ansett , subsidise both or none at all.
Maybe a two airline policy , one government owned and one private ? Oh, wait a minute..........

cattletruck 23rd Mar 2020 06:06

Dear Alan,

Surprise! It's not all about you.

Ct.

TBM-Legend 23rd Mar 2020 06:09

George Glass for PM.....

Totally correct. VA hasn't made a cracker for 7 years, is owned by foreigners save a few mums and dads here. Living on loans and bleats. Why shouldn't Joyce rail against government funding if its only for them? What about the REX bleat from its foreign owner from Singapore? More threats...

dragon man 23rd Mar 2020 06:13

If Goyder had any spine he would tell the prick to issue a public apology or he would be sacked. Disgraceful behaviour, it doesn’t matter who owns the airline they are our fellow Australians and part of the larger aviation family.

unobtanium 23rd Mar 2020 06:19

It'll be a fair go if Chairman's Lounge is made illegal.

blubak 23rd Mar 2020 06:29


Originally Posted by deadc (Post 10724726)
Is anyone surprised? That's how the little one operates. How does he treat his own employees let alone the opposition?

His employees should be lobbying their local mp to allow them to use their leave & entitlements as they wish not how qantas wishes.
The world according to him,yet again.


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