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Bend alot 23rd Feb 2020 07:08


Originally Posted by 73qanda (Post 10693879)
That’s a good point Buttscratcher. People in authority are no different from us line pilots, they say what they think is most likely at the time and sometimes they are wrong. I certainly wouldn’t be acting purely on what others say. I’ll weigh it up and take it into account then make up my own mind.

And then if you refuse you are (possibly) dismissed, then you must be willing to file an unfair dismissal.

I suggest you also get union/legal advise on your "weigh up decision", in the field not of your expertise or experience before you refuse to carry out your duty of employment.

73qanda 23rd Feb 2020 07:24

It”s nowhere near that complicated or difficult Bendy. You just have to use your head a bit and do what you think is right at the time.
Union, Legal, Expertise, Dismissed,Duty, Refuse.......it doesn’t have to be that dramatic :)

Buttscratcher 23rd Feb 2020 08:37

Well, package it anyway you need to, but just don't believe it's correct and safe simply because someone wrote it that way. Do we really believe 'they' have our best interests at heart? ....or are we a commodity?
Why didn't 'they' stop mainland China flights immediately after the substantial threat became apparent?
Was the 7 day lead-up notice in the public's best interest?
Why deny any crew safety concerns?
So, who is going to keep you out of harm's way....The Boys upstairs?

The fact is that it's a commercial enterprise.
....I'm not advocating dissent and mutiny........I'm just saying.

ringbinder 3rd Mar 2020 10:19


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 10681424)
Several have arrived on planes, andit has not spread over continents. Let's get real about the actual risk of contracting this thing.

"it has not spread over continents" - well not Antarctica.

Pulled your head out of the sand yet?

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 4th Mar 2020 08:57

North America: Population 368 and change million. Cases 133
China: Population 1.4 Billion Cases 80 odd thousand.

So no, it hasn't spread over continents, not even the one it started in. But you keep stockpiling your toilet paper.

nonsense 4th Mar 2020 15:04


Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was (Post 10702219)
North America: Population 368 and change million. Cases 133
China: Population 1.4 Billion Cases 80 odd thousand.

So no, it hasn't spread over continents, not even the one it started in. But you keep stockpiling your toilet paper.

How many americans really have coronavirus?

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 5th Mar 2020 10:57

So what? Even if it's 1000 or 2000 (and that article just dances around without actually saying anything - I'm making numbers up like they are), it's still an insignificant number in the big picture. 0.000036% rises to 0.000054%

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 5th Mar 2020 11:23

Outside of China, approx 230 of the other 6.4 billion people in the world have died from coronavirus.
It's far more likely you'll die by being hit by a meteor.
I'll take my chances.

givemewings 6th Mar 2020 10:53


Originally Posted by zanzibar (Post 10679525)
If that is the case then why did the cabin crew on the Wuhan-Learmonth flight allegedly sit on the upper deck for the duration?

Probably a requirement for any crew to agree to do the flight!

Turnleft080 8th Mar 2020 05:07

Going back to this coronavirus people should not be scared of this virus.
What you should be scared of is your own immune system. If your eating more
good bacteria than bad bacteria then you will overcome this virus even if you catch it.
How do you do that. Eat organically. Eat home made fermented food, eat 1 clove of raw garlic,
quarter onion some ginger, it must be raw. Food is your medicine. Not the drug store.
Get some sun on your skin, get 7 hours sleep. Everyone can have a bullet proof immune system
those that don't, panic.


Angle of Attack 8th Mar 2020 08:05

Outside of China, approx 230 of the other 6.4 billion people in the world have died from coronavirus.
It's far more likely you'll die by being hit by a meteor.
I'll take my chances.

One person has been hit by a meteor in all recorded history, it was in 1954 and a glancing blow, she survived. If you go on probabilities your flawed, I’d much rather take the risk of a meteor strike. Mathematically your 6.7 million percent more likely to die from COVID 19 than a meteor impact. There was also a woman in Japan that got bruised by meteor fragments in Japan in the 80’s while asleep but no injury occurred. The reason Maths and Physics should be re introduced to pilot entry requirements to stop fake news.





Traffic_Is_Er_Was 8th Mar 2020 23:59

From National Geographic:

Putting a probability number on the chances of being hit by a space rock is difficult, since the events are so rare. Still, Tulane University earth sciences professor Stephen A. Nelson published a paper in 2014 that made the effort. He put the lifetime odds of dying from a local meteorite, asteroid, or comet impact at 1 in 1,600,000....Nelson put the risk of dying from a large, global asteroid or comet impact at 1 in 75,000. If that seems surprisingly high, it's because when massive objects have hit the Earth in the geologic past, they have wiped out millions of organisms, even whole species. Most of the creatures aren't killed from the direct impact, but from the aftereffects, which include heat, radiation, and dust that clouds out the sun.

Astronomer Alan Harris made a similar calculation, finding that a human being has a 1 in 700,000 chance of getting killed by an impact from space in their lifetime, with most of the risk coming from a large-scale event.
I'll still take my chances that something else will get me before coronavirus does.

ringbinder 12th Mar 2020 20:56


I'll still take my chances that something else will get me before coronavirus does.
With the way things are rapidly going, do you still think the earth is flat?

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 14th Mar 2020 10:27

What way are things rapidly going? No matter how many people contract the virus, you still are very very unlikely to get badly sick, and very very very unlikely to die from it.
I'll still take my chances...….like we all will.

Buster Hyman 14th Mar 2020 12:12

Perspective....


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Thirsty 14th Mar 2020 13:02

In light of the current developments, re-reading this thread from the first post, knowing what we do (now in hindsight), and having an educated punt on future developments all I can say is...

read and weep.


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