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mangatete 4th Feb 2020 17:40

Coronavirus require separate Crew lanes
 
With the spread of Coronavirus rapidly now exceeding other contagious viruses, working crew should be isolated from travelling public at departure and arrival areas, currently crew are herded together with all passengers from different flights and countries prior to any passenger screening for illness. Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work. Airports, without dedicated and separation for crew, should be avoided. The risk of catching this virus is higher than being hit by a vehicle on the apron, but god help us if we don’t wear a high vis vest on the apron. What’s being done about protection against the spread of a virus to crew...Nothing because catching this virus is “getting sick” and not deemed an accident so no input from OSH. Lobby your union rep’s, and management now, don’t be queuing up for long periods with possible infected carriers of these viruses because this is where they spread and will infect you and then your family.

PPRuNeUser0184 4th Feb 2020 19:18


Originally Posted by mangatete (Post 10679434)
With the spread of Coronavirus rapidly now exceeding other contagious viruses, working crew should be isolated from travelling public at departure and arrival areas, currently crew are herded together with all passengers from different flights and countries prior to any passenger screening for illness. Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work. Airports, without dedicated and separation for crew, should be avoided. The risk of catching this virus is higher than being hit by a vehicle on the apron, but god help us if we don’t wear a high vis vest on the apron. What’s being done about protection against the spread of a virus to crew...Nothing because catching this virus is “getting sick” and not deemed an accident so no input from OSH. Lobby your union rep’s, and management now, don’t be queuing up for long periods with possible infected carriers of these viruses because this is where they spread and will infect you and then your family.

Good one.....

Torres 4th Feb 2020 19:28

Interesting............

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ANCDU 4th Feb 2020 19:42

Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I don’t think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.

zanzibar 4th Feb 2020 19:54


.....confirm that the risk of aircraft workers contracting Coronavirus as a result of working on an aircraft is negligible
If that is the case then why did the cabin crew on the Wuhan-Learmonth flight allegedly sit on the upper deck for the duration?

Sparrows. 4th Feb 2020 20:37


Originally Posted by Torres (Post 10679501)


​​​​​​​It would be nice if middle management knew that QF130 is from Shanghai and not Beijing....... :ugh::ugh:

ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE 4th Feb 2020 20:53


Originally Posted by ANCDU (Post 10679514)
Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I don’t think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.

i did a quick search on FR24 and looks like they’re all cancelled. I hope that’s the case

seven3seven 4th Feb 2020 21:14

So because an internal Qantas medical officer has given them advice, they claim it’s lawful?

Don’t make me laugh.

Hopefully your unions are onto that.

Sunfish 4th Feb 2020 21:18

That needs to be followed by a letter demanding that if crew catch Coronavirus, Qantas will deem them to have been infected in the course of their employment and fully indemnify crew against all medical costs, incidental costs, loss of income and permanent injury up to and including death.

To put it another way, it is not “unreasonable” to assume that working in public transport is many times more risky than staying at home. I fully expect all public transport workers, and their unions, will think likewise shortly.

The news this morning is ominous; it’s not the 13 cases, it’s the admission we are testing another 213 people with symptoms.

patagonianworelaud 5th Feb 2020 00:00


Quote:
.....confirm that the risk of aircraft workers contracting Coronavirus as a result of working on an aircraft is negligible


If that is the case then why did the cabin crew on the Wuhan-Learmonth flight allegedly sit on the upper deck for the duration?
And why was the aircraft disinfected, according to news reports, after the all-volunteer crew flew it back?

One rule for some and a separate rule for others.

Fools, in their haste to penalise someone, they can't even get basics like from where the aircraft originated correct.


Sunfish 5th Feb 2020 01:14

TBM, everyone who manages employees has to have a working knowledge of OH&S. Furthermore you can go to jail for NOT knowing your responsibilities. Every employer has a duty to provide a safe workplace.

PPRuNeUser0184 5th Feb 2020 02:56


Originally Posted by ANCDU (Post 10679514)
Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.


What airline?



ACMS 5th Feb 2020 03:08


Originally Posted by ANCDU (Post 10679514)
Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I don’t think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.


really? Wuhan is currently in lockdown with no flights at all, trains or buses.....

Indonesia ain’t that dumb either.


amberale 5th Feb 2020 03:12


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10679686)
TBM, everyone who manages employees has to have a working knowledge of OH&S. Furthermore you can go to jail for NOT knowing your responsibilities. Every employer has a duty to provide a safe workplace.

True, however has anyone ever gone to jail other than the rare construction site death conviction?

smiling monkey 5th Feb 2020 03:20

Now this is how you disinfect flights back from Wuhan, the Indonesian way.


I believe this was an evacuation flight from Wuhan to Batam on Batik Air's A330.

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 5th Feb 2020 03:25


Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work.
As opposed to every other staff member, from the bridge driver, gate staff, dispatch staff, border agencies, baggage services staff etc etc etc.
You already get dedicated crew lanes so you don't have to line up with the rest of the rabble. Wear your mask and gloves like everyone else if you are worried.
Harden up princess.

Sunfish 5th Feb 2020 04:19

Anyone working with the general public - doctors, nurses, cabin crew and checkout staff are all at higher risk than someone working from home.

smiling monkey 5th Feb 2020 04:33


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10679747)
Anyone working with the general public - doctors, nurses, cabin crew and checkout staff are all at higher risk than someone working from home.

No sh!t, Einstein?

PPRuNeUser0184 5th Feb 2020 05:15


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10679722)
really? Wuhan is currently in lockdown with no flights at all, trains or buses.....

Indonesia ain’t that dumb either.

Exactly. I call bulls#$t that there are still flights that are operating Wuhan to Bali unless it’s a evacuation flight.


zanzibar 5th Feb 2020 08:27

So:
  1. anyone who has been in China in recent times is, if they’re allowed into Australia, is required to quarantine themselves for 14 days.
  2. those evacuated from Wuhan are sent to quarantine on Christmas island for 14 days.
To me this is a clear indication that anyone – anyone – coming from China is considered by the authorities to have the potential to be infected, and/or infectious.

So, to my mind, it is not unreasonable for a worker to refuse to have anything to do with an aircraft that has come from China and has possibly carried a someone infected.

What was Joyce’s response to the TWU?



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