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Old 4th Feb 2020, 18:40
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Devil Coronavirus require separate Crew lanes

With the spread of Coronavirus rapidly now exceeding other contagious viruses, working crew should be isolated from travelling public at departure and arrival areas, currently crew are herded together with all passengers from different flights and countries prior to any passenger screening for illness. Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work. Airports, without dedicated and separation for crew, should be avoided. The risk of catching this virus is higher than being hit by a vehicle on the apron, but god help us if we donít wear a high vis vest on the apron. Whatís being done about protection against the spread of a virus to crew...Nothing because catching this virus is ďgetting sickĒ and not deemed an accident so no input from OSH. Lobby your union repís, and management now, donít be queuing up for long periods with possible infected carriers of these viruses because this is where they spread and will infect you and then your family.
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 20:18
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With the spread of Coronavirus rapidly now exceeding other contagious viruses, working crew should be isolated from travelling public at departure and arrival areas, currently crew are herded together with all passengers from different flights and countries prior to any passenger screening for illness. Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work. Airports, without dedicated and separation for crew, should be avoided. The risk of catching this virus is higher than being hit by a vehicle on the apron, but god help us if we donít wear a high vis vest on the apron. Whatís being done about protection against the spread of a virus to crew...Nothing because catching this virus is ďgetting sickĒ and not deemed an accident so no input from OSH. Lobby your union repís, and management now, donít be queuing up for long periods with possible infected carriers of these viruses because this is where they spread and will infect you and then your family.
Good one.....
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 20:28
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Interesting............


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Old 4th Feb 2020, 20:42
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Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I donít think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 20:54
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.....confirm that the risk of aircraft workers contracting Coronavirus as a result of working on an aircraft is negligible
If that is the case then why did the cabin crew on the Wuhan-Learmonth flight allegedly sit on the upper deck for the duration?
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Interesting............


​​​​​​​It would be nice if middle management knew that QF130 is from Shanghai and not Beijing.......
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 21:53
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Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I donít think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.
i did a quick search on FR24 and looks like theyíre all cancelled. I hope thatís the case
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 22:14
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So because an internal Qantas medical officer has given them advice, they claim itís lawful?

Donít make me laugh.

Hopefully your unions are onto that.
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Old 4th Feb 2020, 22:18
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That needs to be followed by a letter demanding that if crew catch Coronavirus, Qantas will deem them to have been infected in the course of their employment and fully indemnify crew against all medical costs, incidental costs, loss of income and permanent injury up to and including death.

To put it another way, it is not “unreasonable” to assume that working in public transport is many times more risky than staying at home. I fully expect all public transport workers, and their unions, will think likewise shortly.

The news this morning is ominous; it’s not the 13 cases, it’s the admission we are testing another 213 people with symptoms.
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.....confirm that the risk of aircraft workers contracting Coronavirus as a result of working on an aircraft is negligible


If that is the case then why did the cabin crew on the Wuhan-Learmonth flight allegedly sit on the upper deck for the duration?
And why was the aircraft disinfected, according to news reports, after the all-volunteer crew flew it back?

One rule for some and a separate rule for others.

Fools, in their haste to penalise someone, they can't even get basics like from where the aircraft originated correct.


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TBM, everyone who manages employees has to have a working knowledge of OH&S. Furthermore you can go to jail for NOT knowing your responsibilities. Every employer has a duty to provide a safe workplace.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 03:56
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Originally Posted by ANCDU View Post
Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

What airline?


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Old 5th Feb 2020, 04:08
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Originally Posted by ANCDU View Post
Interesting reading this morning that there are still direct flights from Wuhan to Bali operating as we speak.

With a virus that is contagious without showing symptoms (i.e thermal scans are useless) Australian crews from Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin are being put in situations where they will have a high risk of exposure. As an example in Bali all crew and pax are exiting into a very constrained area to exit the airport.

I donít think Qantas Medical has any idea about situations like this, imagine the publicity for one of the airlines if crew bring this virus into the community, let alone the health of their families.

really? Wuhan is currently in lockdown with no flights at all, trains or buses.....

Indonesia ainít that dumb either.

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TBM, everyone who manages employees has to have a working knowledge of OH&S. Furthermore you can go to jail for NOT knowing your responsibilities. Every employer has a duty to provide a safe workplace.
True, however has anyone ever gone to jail other than the rare construction site death conviction?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 04:20
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Now this is how you disinfect flights back from Wuhan, the Indonesian way.


I believe this was an evacuation flight from Wuhan to Batam on Batik Air's A330.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 04:25
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Crew should stand firmly on this issue as we are exposed every day at work.
As opposed to every other staff member, from the bridge driver, gate staff, dispatch staff, border agencies, baggage services staff etc etc etc.
You already get dedicated crew lanes so you don't have to line up with the rest of the rabble. Wear your mask and gloves like everyone else if you are worried.
Harden up princess.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 05:19
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Anyone working with the general public - doctors, nurses, cabin crew and checkout staff are all at higher risk than someone working from home.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 05:33
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Anyone working with the general public - doctors, nurses, cabin crew and checkout staff are all at higher risk than someone working from home.
No sh!t, Einstein?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 06:15
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really? Wuhan is currently in lockdown with no flights at all, trains or buses.....

Indonesia ainít that dumb either.
Exactly. I call bulls#$t that there are still flights that are operating Wuhan to Bali unless itís a evacuation flight.

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Old 5th Feb 2020, 09:27
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So:
  1. anyone who has been in China in recent times is, if they’re allowed into Australia, is required to quarantine themselves for 14 days.
  2. those evacuated from Wuhan are sent to quarantine on Christmas island for 14 days.
To me this is a clear indication that anyone – anyone – coming from China is considered by the authorities to have the potential to be infected, and/or infectious.

So, to my mind, it is not unreasonable for a worker to refuse to have anything to do with an aircraft that has come from China and has possibly carried a someone infected.

What was Joyce’s response to the TWU?

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