Originally Posted by Lookleft
(Post 10632019)
No its not : (Wikipedia)
Which is why PIA is legal under very restrictive criteria and "going on strike" is illegal. “Protected” just means it’s ratified as an approved action by the FWC. |
The original statement was that a strike was the old term for industrial action. It is not, a strike means the withdrawal of labour. The phrase "going on strike" was used when labour was withdrawn with little or no prior notice. I think a lot of younger people have never seen what going on strike actually looked like. Not a criticism but the fact that they haven't seen it is a result of the tightening of industrial laws since the Accord.
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Jetstar going the extra yard I believe to get any AIPA members on long term sick leave back to work. I wonder why?
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80 odd Aipa members aren’t going to do much. |
Originally Posted by Lookleft
(Post 10632019)
No its not : (Wikipedia)
Which is why PIA is legal under very restrictive criteria and "going on strike" is illegal. "Industrial action where there is a failure or refusal by employees to attend for work, or a failure or refusal to perform any work at all by employees who attend for work, is historically known as a strike." Anyway - I have heard AIPA is still negotiating with Jetstar, how can they bring a solution with so few members? |
Originally Posted by LostontheLOC
(Post 10632162)
https://www.fwc.gov.au/industrial-ac...ustrial-action
"Industrial action where there is a failure or refusal by employees to attend for work, or a failure or refusal to perform any work at all by employees who attend for work, is historically known as a strike." Anyway - I have heard AIPA is still negotiating with Jetstar, how can they bring a solution with so few members? |
They don’t think they can reach a settlement based on AIPA members but the Company love a fractured pilot group so would like nothing better than AIPA members bending the ear of other pilots talking up what a great deal they have. |
Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
(Post 10632183)
They don’t think they can reach a settlement based on AIPA members but the Company love a fractured pilot group so would like nothing better than AIPA members bending the ear of other pilots talking up what a great deal they have. |
So it seems the ground crews will be causing the disruptions this month, the AFAP are not taking action until next month as they did with TT. |
Looks like the first actions are happening on the 14th this month, continuing for the week after that. |
Red Ties
4 hour wearing of RED TIES. That will show them!!!!!!!!!!!
errrrrrrr no This afternoon, the AFAP provided notice to the Company that PIA will commenceon Saturday 14 December in the form of the following bans/actions: 1. A four (4) hour stoppage of all work from:
4. A ban on the performance of any duty that is not on a pilot’s originally published roster, excluding rostered standby. 5. A ban on extending a single or multi-day tour of duty beyond the times stipulated in clause 15 of the Roster Protocol. These bans (except for the 4-hour stoppages) will initially run until 2359 on 20 December 2019. |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10633530)
So it seems the ground crews will be causing the disruptions this month, the AFAP are not taking action until next month as they did with TT. |
Good luck everyone, I am watching with interest. |
Good Lord, if they're going to trot the moron out that was on the news tonight to dis-credit you, you've got it won.
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Originally Posted by Wasi Wasamadroota
(Post 10633568)
4 hour wearing of RED TIES. That will show them!!!!!!!!!!!
errrrrrrr no First class travel, kamikaze and massages... With zero wage growth and an explosion of personal debt, people broadly are tapped out. Robber barons like Alan Joyce's $24 million is not a good optic. |
This is perfect Jetstar, Shorthaul both EBA’s rejected and LH in a **** spin, this is where we want it, PIA about to happen in Jetstar, I’d suggest agree to nothing and keep these bastards in the lurch, United we win. Hopefully some PIA from shorthaul to reduce their options. If we all stand together we will slaughter them, it’s basic maths, not masters |
Originally Posted by The name is Porter
(Post 10633641)
Good Lord, if they're going to trot the moron out that was on the news tonight to dis-credit you, you've got it won.
I wonder if JQ can set a dual world record for the number of 320's sat on their tail / ULD Loaders driven into wings. I hope someone manages to get video of the Kalmar driving down the M5 never to be seen again. |
Just wanting to offer some assistance to you guys but I don't really know any of the AFAP officials. 12 months ago the Jetstar LAMEs voted in favour of PIA. Ultimately they didn't take action as we settled before then but an interesting thing occurred that I am more than happy to share.
Some clutz of a manager was rushing for a flight and left a folder in an Engineering section. Within the folder were all his notes from every EA meeting, legal advice on how to handle PIA at Jetstar and other associated internal info. Although the docs were predominantly Engineering related, it may give some insight into the company and the way they will tackle PIA. If someone from AFAP emails me at [email protected] I would be more than happy to forward every piece of info. cheers and good luck |
The AFAP talking heads need to get onto their media strategy and breakdown this $300k figure the shiny bums are promoting. |
I don’t think it really matters anymore. The company is flashing this 300k figure like it’s a bombshell going to knock out any wage claim we may have. In reality, we’re the lowest paid of any pilot group for comparable work and the Afap can prove that. Add to that the QF exec remuneration and it’s a stupid tactic that really just magnifies managements ridiculous salaries and IR ‘techniques.’ Eaxh and every time there has been an issue with pilot vs company (Insert any of the companies here) the wage card is the first one played. If the general public doesn’t know roughly what a pilot gets paid by now, it’s because they don’t give a sh!t. |
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