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Interceptheading 30th Apr 2018 23:06

Tiger Industrial Action
 
Interesting read in the Age this morning regarding planned industrial action at Tiger.

Anyone know what action will be taken; red ties, PAs, extra gas?

Well done AFAP ( and the other mob...)

IH

Roj approved 30th Apr 2018 23:24

No MELís, no change to rostered duty/sectors and maybe something else., canít remember what to dude said

Flava Saver 1st May 2018 00:32

It’s quite easy to do PIA that doesn’t disrupt the pax significantly that can be union sanctioned.

* No de rated take off’s
* Fully configured by 3000’
* No track shortening
* Sign on right at sign on, not 5 or 10 mins early, go grab that coffee if the bus arrived early

I’m sure there’s plenty of other ideas.

wheels_down 1st May 2018 01:05

Whereís Merren?

Oriana 1st May 2018 10:38

Here ya go boys, throw these on as well.

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This method really works:hmm:!

SilverSleuth 2nd May 2018 04:19

What exactly are the differences of tiger 737 compared to Virgin 737? Or even Jetstar conditions? Serious question.
I only ask because they are the low cost operator to Virgin, like Jetstar to qantas. If Jetstar just said they wanted the same as QF mainline no one would blink.
I actually thought tiger had some better conditions than Jetstar? I honestly donít know though.

drpixie 2nd May 2018 10:50


Originally Posted by Interceptheading (Post 10134682)
Anyone know what action will be taken; red ties, PAs, extra gas?

How about changing the callsign to Whiskas.
They had GoCat and I suspect the old management just thought it was energetic and powerful, didn't get the joke.

jetlikespeeds 3rd May 2018 22:16

In principle agreement reached with the union, although why anyone would accept the first offer in this day and age is beyond me. You owe it to yourself and the colleagues around you to go for as much as possible which certainly isnít done by voting the first offer up.

ad-astra 4th May 2018 00:01

PIA may be a useful Industrial tool but it works BOTH ways.
The provisions of PIA can also be used by the company against its employees. My opinion is that it should be avoided at all costs.
"Going for as much as possible" has it's own pitfalls as many can attest. From 1989 to 2018 I can provide many an example.
If the Union is happy then surely they have the support of the members and both sides can get on with life.
Good work to the pilots who stood firm.

gordonfvckingramsay 4th May 2018 00:50

There is a problem with that though ad-astra and that is a) most airlines I know of practice a form of IA every day, with impunity. And b) PIA is the ONLY language airlines understand. Without PIA, They only stonewall us.

They could lift their game if they wanted and PIA would be used mush less frequently.

ad-astra 4th May 2018 02:36

Yep agree Gordon.
he interesting thing is that the THREAT of PIA is usually all that is needed to bring a recalcitrant employer to the table.
The threat of tumbling bookings and empty aeroplanes speaks loudest.

Alas the THREAT has to be genuine, which is the hard bit.

gordonfvckingramsay 4th May 2018 02:47


Alas the THREAT has to be genuine, which is the hard bit.
Completely agree! That distinction is in the hands of the airline and pilots should not feel sorry for that.

The Banjo 4th May 2018 02:52


Originally Posted by drpixie (Post 10135981)
How about changing the callsign to Whiskas.
They had GoCat and I suspect the old management just thought it was energetic and powerful, didn't get the joke.

Whiskas? What has crew meals got to do with this?

The Green Goblin 4th May 2018 03:22


jetlikespeeds 4th May 2018 04:09


Originally Posted by ad-astra (Post 10137450)
If the Union is happy then surely they have the support of the members and both sides can get on with life.
Good work to the pilots who stood firm.

Ask the Cobham pilots that.

metrodashbrazconkie 6th May 2018 00:13

You said it Jetlike! The AFAP drove the first offer at Cobham like AFAP themselves had something to gain. The AFAP even claimed that ALL the reps were onboard when they werenít. Individualistic goals and misinformation from within my union came as a complete surprise to me, very disappointed. Never vote based on advice from your union, always read the fine print and make your own choice.

joblogs 6th May 2018 22:49

No pilots have voted anything in. The company obviously started to negotiate properly so no Pia. Now they go to the table again to finish the draft. Very strange with pilots leaving every week these companies choose to play hard ball.

Chocks Away 7th May 2018 06:09


Very strange with pilots leaving every week these companies choose to play hard ball.
Exactly! These goons are just some of the muppets that created this shortage crisis so they're sure as hell not the ones to get Airlines out of it!
"No Soup for you!" :} (nor any bonuses either, for that matter!)

Popgun 3rd Dec 2018 12:12

Any news on where the Tiger pilot group is with the bargaining process?

Has another draft document been agreed yet?

PG

WillieTheWimp 3rd Dec 2018 21:39

No counter proposal as yet and I believe PIA is to be voted on very soon after an appetite for it was surveyed recently.


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