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Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10351300)
Check out her LinkedIn Page. Get the vomit bag out before you read it. |
In fairness she's constrained by orders from above/situations she's placed into from those upon high and can only act as a mere functionary.
Now IF she was a leader she'd go to the heads and say "now take back your 73's, give us back 4 AIrbus, when you have a timetable for a professionally co-ordinated rollover give us a call otherwise leave us alone to operate fairly productively in our part of the market. Now piss off until you've got your sh*t together". Management Vs Leadership, two totally different beasts one pretty much extinct. |
Originally Posted by galdian
(Post 10351996)
Management Vs Leadership, two totally different beasts one pretty much extinct.
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Originally Posted by stormfury
(Post 10352029)
Couldn’t agree more, particularly in the aviation industry. pilots literally and figuratively lead every time they strap in if not before. |
Originally Posted by galdian
(Post 10351996)
In fairness she's constrained by orders from above/situations she's placed into from those upon high and can only act as a mere functionary.
Now IF she was a leader she'd go to the heads and say "now take back your 73's, give us back 4 AIrbus, when you have a timetable for a professionally co-ordinated rollover give us a call otherwise leave us alone to operate fairly productively in our part of the market. Now piss off until you've got your sh*t together". Management Vs Leadership, two totally different beasts one pretty much extinct. That's pretty much what should happen but it wont:-( When the idiots higher up at the time (a few years ago now) told the training dept that they had 18 months to train the guys up on 73's (bonding all pilots 3 years & $40K initially) as the buses where going to be sent back, from that day on TT has been a clusterf*ck of the highest magnitude & will continue to do so for the foreseeable future ! At the time this monumental idiotic idea was floated the buses where making money for TT but somehow the boffins at Virgins knew better !!! Also at the time they asked for expression of interest for the initial batch of guys to swap over, it was dismal the initial response, the management stood there shocked, they where clueless (and still are!)! Still the whole shooting match is an entertaining show if nothing else ! |
You will be crying if they close up. You’re obviously an educated and well connected person. Can you list all the airlines that have had to close down purely because pilots have pushed to either increase or even retain current conditions? |
Please don't encourage him Gordon.......:mad:
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Singapore will never close it. They would probably even initiate a takeover of Virgin and remove those who would be planning a closure to stop it. There was a previous MD of Tiger Singapore who was in the process of initiating a closure. He was then removed by SQ. |
Originally Posted by t_cas
(Post 10352098)
If leadership was absent in the aviation industry here in Aus, there would be smoking holes everywhere. Leadership is not restricted to the realm of corporate rank and file,,,,,,, pilots literally and figuratively lead every time they strap in if not before. |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10352264)
Singapore will never close it. They would probably even initiate a takeover of Virgin and remove those who would be planning a closure to stop it. There was a previous MD of Tiger Singapore who was in the process of initiating a closure. He was then removed by SQ. |
Mach - I'm not a spelling or grammar nazi by any means, but a supposedly educated pilot who does not know the difference between "were" and "where" really has me questioning your schooling.
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But what are you specifically fighting for? Anyone able to disclose the specific remuneration and conditions that the union/s is/are seeking? PG |
Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 10352264)
Singapore will never close it. They would probably even initiate a takeover of Virgin and remove those who would be planning a closure to stop it. There was a previous MD of Tiger Singapore who was in the process of initiating a closure. He was then removed by SQ. VA needs Tiger in its stable but has no bloody idea on how to use it to best effect. Which, going by VA's recent performance, is ops normal. |
Well, Tiger's closed down the Phlippines and Indonesia operations a few years ago and the Tiger brand at home has Scooted off. So there's not sentimentality in the SQ Group around the Tiger brand. It’s a long story with a complicated history. You then have the Ryanair mob who had a large interest in the Aussie operation and kept toying with it. Singapore was just along for the ride back in 07, it was Declan Ryan and Tony that wanted the operation here. Then Singapore were left to pick up the pieces. There was three carnations of Tiger. Mark 1 was the RyanAir show with Tony and co. Then you’ve got round 2 with Andrew and Singapore. Now it’s round 3 with the Virginisation of Tiger. Sadly Mark 1 was probably more successful than today’s Tiger. |
Originally Posted by rodney rude
(Post 10352984)
Mach - I'm not a spelling or grammar nazi by any means, but a supposedly educated pilot who does not know the difference between "were" and "where" really has me questioning your schooling.
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Pretty, not pretty. Lead, not Leed. Moron. And my life is as happy and fulfilled as possible!!!
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FFS, the thread is about TIGER INDUSTRIAL ACTION, not about who can spell.
PLEASE, back on thread, some of are interested in the subject matter. |
Originally Posted by Square Bear
(Post 10355909)
FFS, the thread is about TIGER INDUSTRIAL ACTION, not about who can spell.
PLEASE, back on thread, some of are interested in the subject matter. For those of us not in the know...what are the specifics of the sticking points? What are the main bullet points you are trying to achieve in the new contract? Transparency of remuneration and contract conditions is a good thing for all pilots in the industry. PG |
So the stop work is confirmed for this Friday morning?
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