So no news there, then. Come to think of it, can anyone recall Joyce saying anything different over the last 11 years? He must be getting his delivery and diction of that line absolutely spot on by now!

How will they coach him to say Fokker?

That they spend their time acquiring charter/regional airlines ought show precisely where their focus is: It is internal. Their entire focus is lowering labour unit cost.
Their prism is IR.
That it seems ever obvious to the rest of the industry, analysts and staff that their fleet metrics are horrible they persist with a form of competitive behaviour usually observed in a market with monopolistic or oligopolistic competition.
Right now the sharp minded (like a bowling ball), cutting edge regulators at ACCC and ASIC are busily hopping into the latest airline hospitality. Be it free upgrades, Chairman's lounges or even paper bags, soft corruption will see zero questions asked about this integration.

Can’t shrink much more.
The 787 is a replacing the 747 Hull for hull exactly as per ASX statement.
Project Sunrise is a pure replacement type for the A380 and will need less crew bypassing SIN to LHR and LAX to JFK.
Qantas reduced capacity from 4 daily flights to London and 1 to FRA or 5 down to 2 in total(1 787 from PER) and a lonely 1 A380 to LHR via SIN.
I listened to an interview with Joyce where he said the current size of international was as small as it could be as it was required to feed Jetstar Domestic, International and Japan as well as Frequent flyer.

And in what year is that going to start? :zzz:

They'll probably need more crew as they all succumb to exhaustion!

Many have said Joyce is a bully. Even after benefitting from 11 years (some would say 20) of Napoleonic style managerial brilliance, s/he is STILL able to 'bully' a regional. If you can't be the big man in Europe, Asia, ME, or even Sydney - then you certainly can be in regional Australia. For now at least.

The reality for those involved in any sort of work disturbing the normal waking-sleeping cycle is that not only is quality of life reduced, quantity of life tends to reduce substantially.
That Qantas need a new fleet is axiomatic, that the regulatory limits for the long overdue aircraft do not permit its planned tour of duty requirements, ought concern both pilots and cabin crew for that there is zero reputable science supporting its adoption.
If labour organisations and regulatory bodies alike were actually concerned about health effects any consideration would include a long term health study.
The 'studies' Qantas are undertaking are neither sufficient in scope, scale nor time to even be considered anything but marketing.

That the industry permits any change to the current hard limits without science is troubling, that the regulator fails to demand it a concern and that people do not appreciate the long term damage it is doing to them a huge concern.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-walker-review

Qantas needs a new fleet.
Qantas needs new frontline staff for day to day ops, especially gate staff.
They need more tug drivers (especially in Melbourne).
We need new management.
Above all, we need leadership.

Totally agree with you V Jet. I have been back in domestic now for just over 12 months, the improvement in my health in exponential. The effects of multi-zone time changes is cumulative, no research or study will ever replicate the effect it has.

Eloquently summarised, the disconnect between how a modern airline integrates many varied and dynamic functions has been studied and bench marked.
That the self anointed greatest management team lack the strategic imperative to evaluate, select and order a fleet is suggestive of very real problems.
Little Napoleon had no issue quickly committing shareholder funds, totalling $9.5 billion into a JQ fleet replacement when the airline is only capable of a fraction of the revenue, and boasts a fleet age half of the parent.

That the board is infected with lawyers and aircraft leasing people, with the sidekick T-shirt wearing Todd, is probably reason enough for the rudderless ship to continue drifting.
At least though a decision appears to have been made on fleet...
It is just that Qantas aren't getting some.

https://www.dw.com/en/qantas-cancels...80s/a-47401917

They need new tugs also as half of the current inventory came from Essendon when ops transferred to Tullamarine.

Little Napoleon, dollars short and years late. Four engine aircraft traipsing around the globe will axiomatically burn a huge amount more fuel than twin engine aircraft.
That in turn blows out operating cost as fuel included CASK rises above your competitors at an alarming rate.

Qantas desperately need leadership.

The parlous state that long haul presently finds itself in has not occurred by accident, it is the plan and it is going smashingly. Long haul died years ago, they are just waiting for the most opportune time to announce it.

It is precisely why, the 'terminal decline' narrative was established in 2011.
That they 'transformed' the business means it would be the foolhardy to attempt it again.

Little Napoleon in December 2013 claimed he needed 'AUD$3 billion" of taxpayer assistance, only recanting six weeks later.
That the government of the day required diligence beyond which Little Napoleon wanted was the reason for the rather abrupt reversal.
Although foolhardy, with a new circus in town, given the low wattage dullards sitting in Parliament (on both sides) perhaps a Chairman's lounge membership and 'forever' upgrades will carry the day.
After all nobody asked any questions of the grounding, nor the amazing 'transformation' with 'amazingly' well timed option vesting.
The little 'investment' in Helloworld Travel seems also to be paying dividends as the Finance Minister forgets to pay his own bills...
The CEO just also happens to be a Liberal party treasurer. Soft corruption a good investment in modern Straya.