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Gamechanger 13th May 2017 22:54

BNE A320. EK lost money because of overcapacity, increased competition from other ME Airlines, loss of home traffic due to oil price falls affecting local premium traffic and laptop bans on the USA affecting loads.
Your talking rubbish.

BNEA320 14th May 2017 06:07


Originally Posted by CFM56-7 (Post 9769782)
320 sounds like the grim reaper. Nothing positive to say in any posts, negative negative that's it.

nope a realist. Many seem to be living in LA, LA land, thinking the govt's going to fix everything, which it won't or can't.

BNEA320 14th May 2017 06:14


Originally Posted by keepitrealok (Post 9769764)
You have a very myopic view.

Delta Airlines paid out record 1B in profit share to employees.

Qatar Airways, from reports, is about to announce a record profit.

IAG has just announced a record first quarter profit.

Lufthansa Group has just announced a 4.6% increase in profit on last year, keeping their margins at record prior-year levels.

A certain un-nameable airline in the ME have never had a market, and will never succeed alone.

EK is finally having all of its chickens coming home to roost. The oil price has damaged the ME in extremely significant ways, and, ironically, EK is feeling the brunt of it. Cost cutting has meant that the EK product is no longer what it was, and passengers are going elsewhere.

BNEA320 your statement is a sensationalist, and uneducated one. To put it bluntly, you are full of ....

wow are you a big real estate investor ?

Have shares in Alitalia, Air Berlin, Etihad, Qantas ? good luck with that.

Some very creative accounting is done, with international airlines, moving expenses to a different year or different jurisdiction. Know some tax lawyers/accountants who can make any balance sheet look good or bad for a while, but eventually the truth has to come out.

Icarus2001 14th May 2017 06:17

Yes but all you keep talking about is real estate and airlines, or in particular Etihad.

The Australian economy is much more than these sectors.

Again I ask where is the evidence of two quarters of negative GDP growth?

http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/char...31&type=column

CurtainTwitcher 14th May 2017 07:50

Icarus, you are wasting your breath arguing with BNEA320. I collated a small collection of his infamous Xmas = doom for airlines posts dating back to 2013 in the Flight overbooking thread post #47.

Dealing with BNEA320 is a some sort of weird hybrid between Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby story & the internet meme of "Sea-Lioning"


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BNEA320 15th May 2017 00:50


Originally Posted by CurtainTwitcher (Post 9770507)
Icarus, you are wasting your breath arguing with BNEA320. I collated a small collection of his infamous Xmas = doom for airlines posts dating back to 2013 in the Flight overbooking thread post #47.

Dealing with BNEA320 is a some sort of weird hybrid between Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby story & the internet meme of "Sea-Lioning"


http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...73/260/a5b.png

just because am good at predicting the future & no longer need to work full time.

CurtainTwitcher 15th May 2017 01:15

In that case give us a specific actionable investment prediction with a last date to close the trade, with a profit. Hand wringing about the future "possibilities" is not a prediction. You have made so many "predictions" in the past, that effectively you have effectively covered your bases, and as the saying goes, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Give us something concrete & specific.

Post it here for posterity so we can all judge your magical predictive abilities for ourselves with hindsight, and then if it turns out to be correct you can taunt us with your success & gloat about your great fortune.

Being early is the same as being wrong.

BNEA320 15th May 2017 03:42

http://www.flyscoot.com/en/au-take-o...ke-off-tuesdayfar out Scoot going cheaper now $349 PER/ATH (yes meals & bags are extra but not much)

BNEA320 15th May 2017 03:46


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 9770447)
Yes but all you keep talking about is real estate and airlines, or in particular Etihad.

The Australian economy is much more than these sectors.

Again I ask where is the evidence of two quarters of negative GDP growth?

http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/char...31&type=column

you don't see the real estate that doesn't sell in any figures.

Either one of 2 things happens:-
1) vendor is not desperate & despite real estate agent saying you'll get a great price, very little interest at that price & agent suddenly says, market has dropped, you'll have to take less(but agent won't drop his commission) he/she takes property off the market

or

2) vendor is desperate but doesn't want to sell for more than he/she paid year or 3 ago & hangs on until bank repossesses property. Takes a while for bank to hold a no reserve auction.

wishiwasupthere 15th May 2017 05:27

When did Pprune become a travel agent/real estate forum?

CurtainTwitcher 15th May 2017 05:38


Originally Posted by BNEA320
just because am good at predicting the future & no longer need to work full time.

Still waiting for a precise actionable prediction including TIME.

B772 27th May 2017 05:36

Another competitor for QF to contend with between MEL-LHR later in the year is JL. Starting prices are hundreds of dollars cheaper than QF and EK. Good if you are into Japanese :)

Metro man 27th May 2017 07:30

I recently spent 16 hours on a ship, got on at 3.30pm and got off at 7.30am. We had a private cabin with our own bathroom, bed, TV and fridge. After dinner in the restaurant we had a good nights sleep. In the morning I had a nice hot shower and got dressed in clean clothes.

Arrived at our destination feeling fine. Would I like to have spent the same time confined in a sitting position with no privacy ? No way.

maggot 27th May 2017 07:44


Originally Posted by Metro man (Post 9784084)
I recently spent 16 hours on a ship, got on at 3.30pm and got off at 7.30am. We had a private cabin with our own bathroom, bed, TV and fridge. After dinner in the restaurant we had a good nights sleep. In the morning I had a nice hot shower and got dressed in clean clothes.

Arrived at our destination feeling fine. Would I like to have spent the same time confined in a sitting position with no privacy ? No way.

Tell that to the folks on the very popular DFW-SYD service. Up to 17 easy.

Beer Baron 27th May 2017 08:56


Arrived at our destination feeling fine. Would I like to have spent the same time confined in a sitting position with no privacy ? No way.
Are you serious??? Do you understand what air travel is all about??
How long is the cruise from Perth to London?
Cruising may well be about the journey but flying is all about the destination. Comparing one with the other is completely irrelevant.

Metro man 27th May 2017 09:30

I could have flown the same route in about 1:10 however the ferry for two was the same price as flying for one, saved two nights hotel accommodation as each leg was overnight and was more reliable than going by air as flight cancellations and delays on the route were not unusual due to weather.

I was trying to give a comparison of 16 hours on a ship which was quite pleasant compared to 16 hours crammed sitting in an aircraft with limited movement which would have been miserable.

Different matter if you can afford first class on Emirates with your own suite and shower available, have space to move around and even a bar to sit and have a drink at.

B772 5th Jun 2017 06:01

9 abreast on the QF 787 in economy. JL has just announced their 787 service to MEL is only 8 abreast and only a total of 161 seats in a B787-8 :D


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