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Old 27th Apr 2017, 02:48
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Very Competative $2270 Perth - London

Seems GT the aviation expert needs to do his homework. Quoting the new direct London flight from Perth as very competative in the local press at $2270 return! Just looked on sky scanner Singapore Air is $1620 on the start date next march.
Where does he get off with Qantas promotion and misinformation? Should he be outed for paid advertising?
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 03:11
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You realise SQ isn't direct PH-LHR don't you?
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 03:16
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Supply and demand

You can fly Air NZ MEL/SYD-AKL-LAX for about 20% cheaper than AKL-LAX direct.

One would assume the MEL-LHR via Dubai or Perth would be the same price or close to as you can fly other carriers about 60mins longer.

Prices will sink within a 6 month window of the date. I recently purchased Singapore A380 MEL-LHR $1100 4 months in advance. A year out it was $2500.

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Old 27th Apr 2017, 03:27
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Travel time via Perth is 90mins quicker than via Dubai. Whether that's worth the saving is up to the individual I guess.

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Old 27th Apr 2017, 06:50
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You realise SQ isn't direct PH-LHR don't you?
In travel industry speak it is.
If you don't change direction (by much), even with a stop, it's direct.
The Qantas PER-LHR is "non-stop" in the jargon.

I've even seen BNE-AKL-LAX quoted as "direct". At least PER-SIN-LHR is almost "great circle direct"!
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 13:23
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Technically speaking a direct fight has 2 or more legs without a change of flight number.

In the case of QF9 now a MEL-PER-LHR service it can be sold as a nonstop flight/service PER-LHR or as a direct flight/service MEL-LHR. That will confuse the punters.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 21:35
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31 inch seat pitch, 9 across, , 17 hours and 2000 bucks? awesome
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 22:45
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I believe it is 32 inches in economy with slimline seats that add more usable leg room. So from that aspect it is on par with what you would need for a 17 hour haul.

There's no getting around the narrow seating that comes with nine across in a 787 though.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 00:30
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If you live in Perth its a non stop flight.
If you have to get to Perth first,then its not.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 00:47
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Any idea what other destinations are planned with the 787?

I think its time to change to the QF FF scheme.

Who in their right mind would choose a stop over in the middle east? About time that shithole gets put in its place.

Kudos to QF for ordering the right aircraft.

If 787/350 or 321NEO isn't on your order books you just ain't in the game.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 01:42
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal View Post
Any idea what other destinations are planned with the 787?
This is the rumour that was going around December last year. I recall someone else posting it previously on PPRuNe?

Aeroplanes 1 and 2- MEL- LAX
Aeroplanes 3 and 4- MEL- PER- LHR
Aeroplanes 5 and 6- BNE- LAX- NYC
Aeroplanes 7 and 8- SYD- YVR, SYD- PEK.

IIRC the next batch of 787s need to start being firmed up towards the end of this year? That's second hand from one of the recent meetings.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 01:44
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Originally Posted by RU/16 View Post
Seems GT the aviation expert needs to do his homework. Quoting the new direct London flight from Perth as very competative in the local press at $2270 return! Just looked on sky scanner Singapore Air is $1620 on the start date next march.
Where does he get off with Qantas promotion and misinformation? Should he be outed for paid advertising?
I'd like to know when GT decided for himself that he'd rename Singapore Airlines. To all the people I know, it's Singapore 'Airlines'... it says so in big letters on the side of the aeroplane. Just another example of how GT doesn't quite even get the language right. That might endear him to the uninformed but it does not carry any currency with people who know what they're talking about. Maybe it is very competitive, maybe it isn't but whether the direct/non-stop nomenclature crowds things or not, he does not qualify to determine what's competitive... or did he somehow become an airline economics expert while he was chucking bags.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 07:56
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 08:36
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Originally Posted by SixDemonBag View Post
You realise SQ isn't direct PH-LHR don't you?
Who would want to pay a premium for a 17 hour non-stop flight? No one from the eastern states. Singapore is a far better option on an A380.

I pity those in Melbourne who are now on a smaller, noisier aircraft, and have to stop in Perth for 90 minutes to add insult to injury.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 08:39
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
Aeroplanes 7 and 8- SYD- YVR, SYD- PEK.

IIRC the next batch of 787s need to start being firmed up towards the end of this year? That's second hand from one of the recent meetings.
They really need to get rid of the old 747's to Tokyo, so a 787-9 would be an upgrade there, and bring them into line with ANA & JAL once they (Qantas) fit them with wifi.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 09:04
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Originally Posted by p.j.m View Post
They really need to get rid of the old 747's to Tokyo, so a 787-9 would be an upgrade there, and bring them into line with ANA & JAL once they (Qantas) fit them with wifi.
787s to Tokyo would be a huge reduction in capacity compared to the 744.
The 744 is doing it without overtime pay to the pilots, expect shorter sectors to be flown by 747s and 380s, especially if the pax numbers are there.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 11:15
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So Qantas plan the networks on pilot overtime? Are you really that gullible?
Amazing that Qantas made billions of dollars profit for a few years without the 787 having even arrived.
787 was never going to Asia, only AIPA thought that.
As Alan said' "The 787 was made to fly ultra-long Haul routes like Perth to London".
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 12:46
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So Qantas plan the networks on pilot overtime? Are you really that gullible?
Amazing that Qantas made billions of dollars profit for a few years without the 787 having even arrived.
787 was never going to Asia, only AIPA thought that.
As Alan said' "The 787 was made to fly ultra-long Haul routes like Perth to London".
I am not that gullible, but that seems to be how thick our leaders are, at least by their rhetoric at EBA time.
Also by what a base manager said to me last week.
The combination of fuel economy and crew costs will make it more likely that the 787 will do long sectors while the fuel hungry four engine types will reduce to shorter sectors.
This is why the company line was so strong on the change of contract for the 787.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 21:28
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Originally Posted by fearcampaign View Post
So Qantas plan the networks on pilot overtime? Are you really that gullible?
Amazing that Qantas made billions of dollars profit for a few years without the 787 having even arrived.
787 was never going to Asia, only AIPA thought that.
As Alan said' "The 787 was made to fly ultra-long Haul routes like Perth to London".
Never asia? I do wonder what will do the current 330 intl flying when that fleets time comes...? 5 years time?
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 08:29
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Maggot. My guess is the B787-10.
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