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-   -   Any news on the whereabouts of the Australian FO involved with the DXB crash (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/582552-any-news-whereabouts-australian-fo-involved-dxb-crash.html)

outside limits 7th Aug 2016 13:02

He and his family should'nt even be there. Should of banged out of there within 24 hrs.

xhamster 7th Aug 2016 15:48


Originally Posted by outside limits (Post 9465800)
He and his family should'nt even be there. Should of banged out of there within 24 hrs.

You really think the UAE government authorities would allow him to just 'bang out of there' within 24 hours after the accident???

parabellum 8th Aug 2016 00:20

Agreed 100% xhamster. As soon as his name was known he would have been on a 'Stop' list UAE wide. Attempting to leave would have been taken as a tacit admission of culpability. I suspect he will quietly go back to QANTAS.

jibba_jabba 8th Aug 2016 01:03

Best thing for the FO to do is stay there.
It is highly unlikely that they will "jail" him at all, considering the worldwide attention the incident got.

So it would fan the flames (pardon the pun) for EK for them to display unjust treatment to staff! They have enough trouble hiring people let alone for that to be an issue!

megan 8th Aug 2016 01:14

Not good if true, but to be expected I guess given the UAE. Plenty of previous. Scratch another airline from the list of acceptable carriers.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post9465705

Willie Nelson 8th Aug 2016 02:25

There is certainly lot of people back here in Oz concerned for his welfare and state of mind regardless of the outcome of the investigation or actions of local authorities.

We all wish you well JW, take care, keep your chin up and don't let any of the bastards get you down.

This too will pass.

Icarus2001 8th Aug 2016 03:03


They have enough trouble hiring people let alone for that to be an issue!
Do you have any evidence of this? I see that they are recruiting heavily as their ads pop up all over "my" internet browsing.

I know two people who started recently and their assessment days had over twenty people being considered for employment. Not sure how many got through.

Al E. Vator 8th Aug 2016 05:18

He is probably fortunate in that he is a QF staff-member and any unfair targeting of him would/should put the QF/EK alliance under stress (if QF has any cojones).

So if they try to blame it on the FO they are thus effectively saying QF pilots are no good and QF should counter this.

Will be interesting to watch the blame-appropriation but again I hope the FO is looked-after by people outside of the EK system where his well-being is, I suspect not paramount.

73to91 8th Aug 2016 05:55

off topic and I do apoligise


the QF/EK alliance under stress
Qantas-Emirates Alliance Turning Sour?

flydive1 8th Aug 2016 08:00


Originally Posted by xhamster (Post 9465940)
You really think the UAE government authorities would allow him to just 'bang out of there' within 24 hours after the accident???

Would the US or any other country?

Progress Wanchai 8th Aug 2016 08:42

Only every civilized country on the planet unless charges have been laid.

It's a terrible indication of how far we have let this profession and industry fall when supposedly professional pilots believe it's acceptable for crew members to be illegally incarcerated or their freedom otherwise restrained.

flydive1 8th Aug 2016 09:34

So, they would not expect to interview you in the next couple of days? Or they would do taht by phone or email?

Square Bear 8th Aug 2016 11:17


It's a terrible indication of how far we have let this profession and industry fall .......
I don't attribute blame, knowledge, nor wish to be involved in discussion, nor speculate re the incident.....But (to paraphrase a previous poster) "it would seem a terrible indication of how far we have let this profession and industry fall if we think it OK that a person that has been part of a terrible sequence of events that led to the unfortunate death of a human to simply be able to pack up and leave when due process such as a coronial enquiry must take place."

As a general comment, "Responsibly" is part of the job description....to cut and run is not.

It is a very relevant (and on occasions terrifying) fact that working in countries other than ones own is fraught with issues such as this!!

And that problem is not confined to just the Sandpit.

I wish all the crew a just and expeditious outcome.

Hempy 8th Aug 2016 11:42

Ask the ATSB how long the crew was in Australia after the ML 'long take-off'..

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/h3mpy/Scrape.jpg

Square Bear 8th Aug 2016 11:52

Hempy

There was no death attributed to that incident/accident..a little different don't you think!

IsDon 8th Aug 2016 12:16

I agree with your sentiments SB , in principal, but in DXB I'd be getting out of there as soon as I could.

If it were a civilised country with a fair and just court system then I would have no problem with your position.

DXB is not!

Expat=scapegoat, especially if Emirati are involved. I wouldn't be hanging around to wear the blame for something I'm not at fault for.

Hempy 8th Aug 2016 12:32

Square Bear. The fact that no one died is irrelevant, they came within seconds of killing everyone on board, and had pure luck on their side that it was 16 departure and not a 34. They barely cleared the boundary fence sloping downhill..

Still, Emirates had both pilots out of the country within 24 hours so they wouldn't have to speak to investigators..

Double standards.

IsDon 8th Aug 2016 20:45

When the CEO of Emirates is also the head of the Air Safety Regulator, what's the chance of a fair investigation?

thorn bird 8th Aug 2016 21:28

With the incestuous relationship between the ATSB and CAsA, what chance of a fair investigation in Australia?

maggot 8th Aug 2016 23:07

Ummmmm....


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