Any news on the whereabouts of the Australian FO involved with the DXB crash
 

I hope with the tragic death of the Emirari fire fighter , the flight crew remain out of prison and are receiving appropriate councilling. Nasty place to be when a life is lost.

Then you should know it's a nasty place to be if needing "counselling" not only at any other time. There is none. I would say "counselling" is the last thing he needs at the moment.

It's best to leave it alone on Prune. This guy is in a world of hurt and the media has got pictures off Facebook and blasting it worldwide. I do hope AIPA are in contact and attempting to assist. He's going to need it.

EK care about one thing. And that's it's image. Putting Pilots in jail will create a media frenzy right across the globe. Exposes the UAE's harsh tactics as they are working quite hard on promoting Dubai as a destination.

The only difference at play here compared to the Melbourne accident is we gave a local captain involved.

Are you in contact with Jeremy? Do you correspond with him? How would you know "This guy is in a world of hurt " Madame?

As the other said we just need to respect his privacy - something the media has not done. Let's hope for his sake there is an open investigation (someone said that ATSB may be able to be involved considering he is still a licenced Australian pilot). I am sure those final seconds are playing over and over in his head as he to tries to work out why it happened.

last I heard was the Foreign Minister(Bishop) was asking him to get in touch. So The Govt are obviously concerned for his welfare. All our best wishes go out to him and his family. And well done CC. In the face of idiots who were more concerned about their laptops, then being incinerated, or the PAX they were blocking, need to be named, shamed, and fined.

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Your posts are drivel. :yuk:

Back to topic.

Best of luck Jeremy!!!!!!!

Actually Dunda, I'd be pulling your app now my friend.
Some serious issues with the place and massive resignations weekly. It has all gone pear-shaped over the last 5-6 years.
The goaters are in serious trouble as more are leaving than been recruited. A lot are getting out even with NO job to go to. Very experienced guys and gals.
Two of my friends are in their last few days and taking a turboprop job back in Oz. One a 777 Capt and the other an A380 Capt. Now that is desperate stuff.
Something is very very wrong and it stinks to high heaven.:cool:

I'd rather fly a C150 doing circuits at Bankstown than live in that hole known as Dubai. Everything is wrong about the joint, close to Middle East Hotspots, Draconian laws, hell there isn't even any green grass there, it's just flying big jets into a fiery inferno hell hole. Each to their own, but I have never and will never consider it, even if there was no choice I would career change rather than working anywhere near Dubai. Your asking for trouble getting involved in that joint. Period.

apart from a world class golf course, a racing track and a place to play cricket!

Ok there is some grass there, but please you know what I mean, I'm sure there are sandpits in Singapore Kindergartens too.

St Andrews Golf course, Hyde Park in London, Central Park New York. All naturally occurring and maintained without any human intervention whatsoever...

Anyway, back to topic, the support and welfare of one of our colleagues (in case you'd all forgotten) who right now might just need it.

Still better off to be home on Australian soil, where the family is safe, rather then in the sandpit, where businessmen and Journos have a habit of disappearing, for paltry reasons. You might be broke, but at least you are free, and if it means going back to the bottom of the woodpile, so be it. Us 89ers survived it, so will you blokes.

Yes and Sheik Makmuppet's additional political bribes, vice, human rights abuse, the weekly killings of third world slaves off partially built highrises and....and....where on earth does one stop. :{:eek:
Oh standby......
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Some of these posts prove why brothers and sisters shouldn't mate.

Aymen!

halas

"Green space" in Dubai = a dab of lipstick on a pig.

Hey Don - I thought Kev the Rev and his brother Fish both proved that one years ago!!!:O

Back to the FO. Very important he's taken care of.
In Dubai, an Emirati can run a red light and crash into a foreigner and be cleared of all wrongdoing.
The same can and potentially will happen in this instance. Emirati Captain and foreign FO. I can just see them sprouting something like 'The FO failed to ..... thus the Captain tried valiantly but was unable to save the aircraft'. I sincerely hope that this isn't the case but if you look at situations such as the Sunland executives detained what was indefinitely, I have grave concerns about the independence and fairness of what may eventuate in this instance.

Of course perhaps the Captain did try valiantly, I wont hypothesise about the cause of the crash but I am concerned that justice will not be fair.

He and his family should'nt even be there. Should of banged out of there within 24 hrs.

You really think the UAE government authorities would allow him to just 'bang out of there' within 24 hours after the accident???

Agreed 100% xhamster. As soon as his name was known he would have been on a 'Stop' list UAE wide. Attempting to leave would have been taken as a tacit admission of culpability. I suspect he will quietly go back to QANTAS.

Best thing for the FO to do is stay there.
It is highly unlikely that they will "jail" him at all, considering the worldwide attention the incident got.

So it would fan the flames (pardon the pun) for EK for them to display unjust treatment to staff! They have enough trouble hiring people let alone for that to be an issue!

Not good if true, but to be expected I guess given the UAE. Plenty of previous. Scratch another airline from the list of acceptable carriers.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post9465705

There is certainly lot of people back here in Oz concerned for his welfare and state of mind regardless of the outcome of the investigation or actions of local authorities.

We all wish you well JW, take care, keep your chin up and don't let any of the bastards get you down.

This too will pass.

Do you have any evidence of this? I see that they are recruiting heavily as their ads pop up all over "my" internet browsing.

I know two people who started recently and their assessment days had over twenty people being considered for employment. Not sure how many got through.

He is probably fortunate in that he is a QF staff-member and any unfair targeting of him would/should put the QF/EK alliance under stress (if QF has any cojones).

So if they try to blame it on the FO they are thus effectively saying QF pilots are no good and QF should counter this.

Will be interesting to watch the blame-appropriation but again I hope the FO is looked-after by people outside of the EK system where his well-being is, I suspect not paramount.

off topic and I do apoligise

Qantas-Emirates Alliance Turning Sour?

Would the US or any other country?

Only every civilized country on the planet unless charges have been laid.

It's a terrible indication of how far we have let this profession and industry fall when supposedly professional pilots believe it's acceptable for crew members to be illegally incarcerated or their freedom otherwise restrained.

So, they would not expect to interview you in the next couple of days? Or they would do taht by phone or email?

I don't attribute blame, knowledge, nor wish to be involved in discussion, nor speculate re the incident.....But (to paraphrase a previous poster) "it would seem a terrible indication of how far we have let this profession and industry fall if we think it OK that a person that has been part of a terrible sequence of events that led to the unfortunate death of a human to simply be able to pack up and leave when due process such as a coronial enquiry must take place."

As a general comment, "Responsibly" is part of the job description....to cut and run is not.

It is a very relevant (and on occasions terrifying) fact that working in countries other than ones own is fraught with issues such as this!!

And that problem is not confined to just the Sandpit.

I wish all the crew a just and expeditious outcome.

Ask the ATSB how long the crew was in Australia after the ML 'long take-off'..

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Hempy

There was no death attributed to that incident/accident..a little different don't you think!

I agree with your sentiments SB , in principal, but in DXB I'd be getting out of there as soon as I could.

If it were a civilised country with a fair and just court system then I would have no problem with your position.

DXB is not!

Expat=scapegoat, especially if Emirati are involved. I wouldn't be hanging around to wear the blame for something I'm not at fault for.

Square Bear. The fact that no one died is irrelevant, they came within seconds of killing everyone on board, and had pure luck on their side that it was 16 departure and not a 34. They barely cleared the boundary fence sloping downhill..

Still, Emirates had both pilots out of the country within 24 hours so they wouldn't have to speak to investigators..

Double standards.

When the CEO of Emirates is also the head of the Air Safety Regulator, what's the chance of a fair investigation?

With the incestuous relationship between the ATSB and CAsA, what chance of a fair investigation in Australia?

Ummmmm....