Any indication why? I suppose you spoke/contacted them, would be interesting to know why.... No shortage of applicants, bad experience with Aussies, union pushback, admin burden....
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Just for further info for Trans State... They advertise hiring Aussies, but when I spoke to them they hadn't actually hired any yet and seemed uncertain as to how the whole visa process works. It may be worth considering that if you run with them you may be the first one working out the wrinkles in their process.
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Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10156912)
Any indication why? I suppose you spoke/contacted them, would be interesting to know why.... No shortage of applicants, bad experience with Aussies, union pushback, admin burden....
AFAIK, there is not a single Aussie working at Compass under E-3 (except green card holders). Piedmont recruiter told me the other day that there is no clause in their pilot contract preventing Aussies under E-3 flowing to AA mainline. It will suit Aussies in early to mid-20s I guess. |
Originally Posted by lee_apromise
(Post 10157017)
The recruiter said and I quote "HQ was going back and forth for 2 weeks about hiring Australians on E-3 and they decided that the cost is not justified". I found it a bit weird in a way that Compass, GoJet and TSA are all under the same parent company and yet TSA is willing to take Aussies on E-3 (don't know if GoJet is still hiring Aussies) whilst Compass is not anymore.
AFAIK, there is not a single Aussie working at Compass under E-3 (except green card holders). Piedmont recruiter told me the other day that there is no clause in their pilot contract preventing Aussies under E-3 flowing to AA mainline. It will suit Aussies in early to mid-20s I guess. |
The advertisement on the afap website today, "Regional jet Pilots USA", sounds as if they're a consultancy firm, with what
appears to be linked to a gmail (email). At least 1,500 hours are needed by an applicant, before applying for a U.S regional, also the night and IFR hours need to be met. The ad. is saying only 1,000 hours is needed for them to place an applicant in contact with a regional, it doesn't sound correct. I'd say a consultancy fee is also payable for their advice. They sound like a middle man. |
Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10159486)
The advertisement on the afap website today, "Regional jet Pilots USA", sounds as if they're a consultancy firm, with what
appears to be linked to a gmail (email). At least 1,500 hours are needed by an applicant, before applying for a U.S regional, also the night and IFR hours need to be met. The ad. is saying only 1,000 hours is needed for them to place an applicant in contact with a regional, it doesn't sound correct. I'd say a consultancy fee is also payable for their advice. They sound like a middle man. And why would one need an agency in this situation ? Haven't Aussies done rather well dealing directly with the airline ? https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...0Pilots%20-USA |
It's a Gmail account so I would say it's just a guy who thinks he can make a buck with referrals or a one person agency preying on the gullible.
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Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10159486)
The advertisement on the afap website today, "Regional jet Pilots USA", sounds as if they're a consultancy firm, with what
appears to be linked to a gmail (email). At least 1,500 hours are needed by an applicant, before applying for a U.S regional, also the night and IFR hours need to be met. The ad. is saying only 1,000 hours is needed for them to place an applicant in contact with a regional, it doesn't sound correct. I'd say a consultancy fee is also payable for their advice. They sound like a middle man. yep sketchy as hell. I’d say it’s another Aussie already over there fishing for details to submit for internal referrals to get a referral bonus. anyone can apply directly to these companies without any need of a middle man. Any regional in the US that takes E3 applicants are now fairly well versed in the process for Aussies. |
....and it reads like the person who wrote it isn't a native English speaker..... Adds to the dodgyness factor.
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Originally Posted by GAforlife
(Post 10160093)
Is anybody else experiencing delayed processing times for the issue of the SSN? Mine has been stuck in the USCIS system for two weeks. I have been told it can take up to 30 days to be cleared by USCIS.
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Originally Posted by Safe Landings
(Post 10150965)
Hi Havick
You are correct, I have never been through a fast paces/large volume course before and I am better prepared for the second airline. I have been warned already that to expect the same firehose with any airline I join in US. Thanks for the well wishes. Regards Safe Landings are u able to provide more info on what you enet through with the visa and training privately pls? thanks |
Starting to hear more fellow ozmates over here on the airwaves. And adopting the . . . . . laid back approach to RT too. Skywest this morning near IAD was a classic ozzie accent at "three five oh". Best of luck lads. |
Starting to hear more fellow ozmates over here on the airwaves. And adopting the . . . . . laid back approach to RT too. |
Latest call for Aussies from CommutAir, dated June 5:
https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/409.html |
I've seen the latest CummutAir advertisement on the afap website, also the previous adv placed by the airline 5 months ago.
After reading all the posts on this topic, i've concluded, a person is eligible to apply for an E3 and go to the U.S Consulate, only, when there is an offer of employment by the airline (person has been accepted to start type training by the airline). **What i'd like to know and something that has been hidden in the advertisements lately, what are the minimum educational qualifications needed? The current CommutAir adv, doesn't mention anything about educational requirements (only ATPL hour requirements), whilst the previous adv, mentioned a high school diploma, or GED (US General Education Diploma- single exam of 4 subjects, 60% pass mark needed-designed for people that didn't finish high school). Or is some type of University Degree still needed? |
Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10165991)
I've seen the latest CummutAir advertisement on the afap website, also the previous adv placed by the airline 5 months ago.
After reading all the posts on this topic, i've concluded, a person is eligible to apply for an E3 and go to the U.S Consulate, only, when there is an offer of employment by the airline (person has been accepted to start type training by the airline). **What i'd like to know and something that has been hidden in the advertisements lately, what are the minimum educational qualifications needed? The current CommutAir adv, doesn't mention anything about educational requirements (only ATPL hour requirements), whilst the previous adv, mentioned a high school diploma, or GED (US General Education Diploma- single exam of 4 subjects, 60% pass mark needed-designed for people that didn't finish high school). Or is some type of University Degree still needed? in short you need to have completed high school and meet the requirements for a FAA ATP |
Havick,
I read your previous posts and i'm aware you're flying there for a while now and appreciate your feedback. I spoke to recruitment today by phone, to verify the educational requirement side of thing, and the lady said, an applicant needs a Bachelor degree or nine years work experience. (General E3 requirement by consulate) Any Bachelor degree will meet the educational side of things to get the visa from the consulate, with the airline's assistance. A Bachelor degree and meeting the ATP hour minimum's, as listed by the company advertisements, is all that's needed to apply Apparently applicants are experiencing problems getting the E3, without the degree. A Bachelor degree is a 3 year course (online or campus), there's an aviation Bachelor degree that's available in Australia. The High school diploma or GED, is for local US applicants that hold an FAA ATPL. I've read the previous posts where applicants, had no Bachelor degree and no 6 or 9 years flying industry experience, but still got the E3. The above is the feedback i received today. |
Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10166697)
Havick,
I read your previous posts and i'm aware you're flying there for a while now and appreciate your feedback. I spoke to recruitment today by phone, to verify the educational requirement side of thing, and the lady said, an applicant needs a Bachelor degree or nine years work experience. (General E3 requirement by consulate) Any Bachelor degree will meet the educational side of things to get the visa from the consulate, with the airline's assistance. A Bachelor degree and meeting the ATP hour minimum's, as listed by the company advertisements, is all that's needed to apply Apparently applicants are experiencing problems getting the E3, without the degree. A Bachelor degree is a 3 year course (online or campus), there's an aviation Bachelor degree that's available in Australia. The High school diploma or GED, is for local US applicants that hold an FAA ATPL. I've read the previous posts where applicants, had no Bachelor degree and no 6 or 9 years flying industry experience, but still got the E3. The above is the feedback i received today. you are referring to E3 visa requirements, I am referring to regional minimum entry requirements. Two different things. a lot of guys are here without a degree and without 9 years experience. Perhaps the consulate is clamping down now given the amount of guys coming over. I wouldn’t know, I’m here on a green card so haven’t kept tabs on the E3 side of things. out of curiosity which company is giving you that feedback? |
Okay.
I'm talking about if an applicant apply's for a regional airline job from Australia, as advertised by Skywest and Commutair, recently and previously. Yes, regional entry requirements for Australian applicants. The lady at Commutair HR, said, a Bachelor degree is needed, as they're experiencing some problems getting E3's for applicants, A Bachelor degree is needed or the relevant number of years industry work experience, is required, for the airline to sponsor an applicant for a E3 visa. Although an applicant may receive a possible job offer from a regional, the degree or industry work experience needs to be met, to enable the airline to process the E3 visa via the consulate. Skywest has the same requirements, Bachelor degree needed. This is the feedback received, unless i've spoken to the wrong people in HR. |
Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10166822)
Okay.
I'm talking about if an applicant apply's for a regional airline job from Australia, as advertised by Skywest and Commutair, recently and previously. Yes, regional entry requirements for Australian applicants. The lady at Commutair HR, said, a Bachelor degree is needed, as they're experiencing some problems getting E3's for applicants, A Bachelor degree is needed or the relevant number of years industry work experience, is required, for the airline to sponsor an applicant for a E3 visa. Although an applicant may receive a possible job offer from a regional, the degree or industry work experience needs to be met, to enable the airline to process the E3 visa via the consulate. Skywest has the same requirements, Bachelor degree needed. This is the feedback received, unless i've spoken to the wrong people in HR. This latest change in tact from the consulate will significantly reduce the amount of illegible applicants given the majority have been non-degree fairly fresh CPL’s (3-4 years flying to get to the 1500 hours). Can hardly blame the consulate for enforcing the rules. |
Originally Posted by havick
(Post 10167566)
sounds like the consulate is clamping down and doing more research on each applicant...
Can hardly blame the consulate for enforcing the rules. havick, What does that mean for those already flying in the US on an E3 when it comes time to renew the visa ? Will they get the new level of scrutiny and be denied if found lacking the quals to hold an E3, i.e., BS degree and/or requisite years in the profession ? Perhaps some consulate "shopping" might produce better results ? And the government with its Perfumed Princes can always be blamed. |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10168433)
havick,
What does that mean for those already flying in the US on an E3 when it comes time to renew the visa ? Will they get the new level of scrutiny and be denied if found lacking the quals to hold an E3, i.e., BS degree and/or requisite years in the profession ? Perhaps some consulate "shopping" might produce better results ? And the government with its Perfumed Princes can always be blamed. Ive heard of and know of one person that has had their green card revoked and citizenship revoked based on originally obtaining an immigrant visa using false information (misrepresentation). That being said if the person that originally went for their E3 interview and were granted their visa with no misrepresentation and the consulate officer granted it on the information in front of them then who knows. If I were to bet I would say that they will be a tick and flick to be renewed, I wonder if they even ask for any more evidence to renew it other than a continued letter of offer? once I again I don’t know the consulate ins and outs of the E3 as I came over on a green card from day one. So I’m only taking a wild guess. |
Originally Posted by havick
(Post 10168510)
If I were to bet I would say that they will be a tick and flick to be renewed, I wonder if they even ask for any more evidence to renew it other than a continued letter of offer
I hope you're right. Pulling the rug from under people who came here honestly under a good faith legal process would be unconscionable. But government has no conscience and therefore can never be trusted. My question was more rhetorical than anything else. |
There's some conflicting information around. I know of two people who have just been granted their E3 visas without a degree and around 5 years industry experience.
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Originally Posted by VH DSJ
(Post 10169393)
There's some conflicting information around. I know of two people who have just been granted their E3 visas without a degree and around 5 years industry experience.
I enquired by phone and to spoke to a lady in Human Resources at CommutAir, that handles the Australian side of things, The above written posts was the feedback recieved. A Bachelor degree was mentioned, due to visa processing difficulties being experienced, or an applicant needed, the required number of years of industry work experience. The feedback i received doesn't have to be gospel, further information is needed. There have been posts on this topic in the last 6 months from persons, saying, they got knocked back by the Consulate for an E3 application and that's with 4 years industry work experience (no degree), while other people got through and no degree or number of years. It's probably best for a person to email skywest and Commutair and ask them about the visa requirements, in relation to the Bachelor degree and work experience requirements. It's approaching mid year now, the advertisements from Skywest and CommutAir will continue all year round and years to come. The more people that contribute to this topic and let everyone know of their experiences in getting the E3, the better the information everyone will have, prior to applying. |
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find one consulate interpreting the rules differently from another (humans !! :* ). I see three consulates in Australia. Are the successful, degreeless people applying through one in particular ?
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Are Republic Airlines doing E3s? I just got a no thanks email.
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Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10170990)
Are Republic Airlines doing E3s? I just got a no thanks email.
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That's good news then!
Leaves me with skywest and gojet at the top of my list. Gotta shake this helicopter problem! |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10171023)
That's good news then!
Leaves me with skywest and gojet at the top of my list. Gotta shake this helicopter problem! |
They are my option by choice thankfully.
So why avoid gojet? I am at the pointy end of making a D so any info would be helpful. What the chances of getting your pick of bases with Skywest say if I wanted Denver or Portland? Thanks for your responses Havick |
gojet (like jetgo in oz, funny that) is a crappy company. |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10171381)
They are my option by choice thankfully.
So why avoid gojet? I am at the pointy end of making a D so any info would be helpful. What the chances of getting your pick of bases with Skywest say if I wanted Denver or Portland? Thanks for your responses Havick |
Yeah.... Read all that..... Going to give go jet a miss.
Is it true you need to front up to a FAA field office to get your licence converted?! Mesa won't give you a job offer untill you have an FAA licence so it means a trip to the USA PRIOR to knowing if you can work for them. Is there a work around at all? Perhaps Skywest offers conditional employment. |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10172721)
Yeah.... Read all that..... Going to give go jet a miss.
Is it true you need to front up to a FAA field office to get your licence converted?! Mesa won't give you a job offer untill you have an FAA licence so it means a trip to the USA PRIOR to knowing if you can work for them. Is there a work around at all? Perhaps Skywest offers conditional employment. |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10171381)
They are my option by choice thankfully.
So why avoid gojet? I am at the pointy end of making a D so any info would be helpful. What the chances of getting your pick of bases with Skywest say if I wanted Denver or Portland? Thanks for your responses Havick CRJ bases out of training usually rotate between Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago and Minneapolis. ERJ bases I'm less sure about but I'd say Chicago or La Guardia Yeah.... Read all that..... Going to give go jet a miss. Is it true you need to front up to a FAA field office to get your licence converted?! Mesa won't give you a job offer untill you have an FAA licence so it means a trip to the USA PRIOR to knowing if you can work for them. Is there a work around at all? Perhaps Skywest offers conditional employment. |
Good gouge, thanks nmop. So that's the letter from casa? Simply apply to casa, have it sent to my address then take it with me?
If mesa wants the letter first then I suspect they aren't getting many takers on the E3 visa! Why do people like erj over crj? Seems to be a big skew. |
Originally Posted by Professional Amateur
(Post 10173193)
Good gouge, thanks nmop. So that's the letter from casa? Simply apply to casa, have it sent to my address then take it with me?
If mesa wants the letter first then I suspect they aren't getting many takers on the E3 visa! Why do people like erj over crj? Seems to be a big skew. then once the FAA get the ball rolling you fill in a casa form giving authority to release your information and pay a fee to casa. |
Quote:
"So you'll get hired by Skywest in Aus, get everything ready and join a class. You do not need to have a valid licence to participate in sim training, you don't need to go to an FSDO. Just make sure you have your verification letter, then when you do you last sim in training, which is essentially a flight test, your licence will get converted at that point to a full FAA ATP." **It's worthwhile mentioning, the ATP exam (single exam), must be passed, prior to getting the full FAA ATPL. |
Originally Posted by Seagull201
(Post 10173266)
Quote:
"So you'll get hired by Skywest in Aus, get everything ready and join a class. You do not need to have a valid licence to participate in sim training, you don't need to go to an FSDO. Just make sure you have your verification letter, then when you do you last sim in training, which is essentially a flight test, your licence will get converted at that point to a full FAA ATP." **It's worthwhile mentioning, the ATP exam (single exam), must be passed, prior to getting the full FAA ATPL. my aussie CPL went straight over to an FAA ATP-MEL. I don’t have any single engine fixed wing ratings on my FAA certificate. |
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