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BNEA320 13th Sep 2015 23:12

& waren you have a clue ??????

27/09 14th Sep 2015 06:09


Pilat: Ewan Wilson should have never been let anywhere near another Airline, and it would not surprise me if CAA decline the AOC.
Now that might be a tad embarrassing since I think two of the head honchos in the KiwiAir operation recently worked at CAA.

BNEA320 14th Sep 2015 07:32

yeh I don't think they have any reason to not grant the AOC. Statute of limitations.

plainmaker 14th Sep 2015 13:39

Bush Lawyer -
 
Statute of Limitations does not apply - the test is 'a fit and proper person'. The basis for determining that goes back to the day you were born if needs be.

Aerozepplin 14th Sep 2015 22:21

He only needs FPP approval if he decides to hold a senior persons role like CEO, Ops manager, etc. The press releases seemed to suggest he’s CEO, but if the feds give him grief (and “honesty crimes” like fraud would likely be grounds to) then hiring an outside CEO and taking another senior management position would be an option. Sounds expensive.

BNEA320 18th Sep 2015 06:12

TV ad
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0qN...ature=youtu.be

BNEA320 16th Oct 2015 01:14

proving flight(s) next week, start regular ops week after. Apparently many small towns in New Zealand are lining up to try & get Kiwi to fly to their airport.


Makes sense, as long as the big black rat(NZ) don't fly the exact route.


Wonder if 2nd aircraft is on its way yet.

27/09 16th Oct 2015 01:45

Yawn who cares Yawn

waren9 16th Oct 2015 09:47

the black rat isnt concerned.

the orange rat will do black rats work on ewan for free.

framer 16th Oct 2015 09:55

And then the orange rat will go to work on the black rat.
5 planes, 15 planes , 35 planes, who cares, it's just a drop in the bucket man.

waren9 16th Oct 2015 10:07

maybe. but thats for another thread.

9 jets plus 5 dh8s will be 14 very soon, yes?

whos going bust first? ewan or robert?

framer 16th Oct 2015 10:12

I dunno but the whole thing plays into the hands of the adage that the industry looks totally different every ten years.if I had to bet I would say Jetstar and ANZ will find a way to live with each other and everyone else will slip away.

BNEA320 17th Oct 2015 02:02

once they have their NZ AOC they could feasibly fly domestically in Australia but under NZCAA rules not CASA rules. think Vincent NZL did that with their BAE146 til May last year.

Ollie Onion 17th Oct 2015 05:26

Yep, that worked out well for Vincent :ugh:

Doesn't matter what kiwi airs competition is, they will be bust within a year and lots of people will be out of pocket. You simply can't fly that schedule through ZQN with a single SAAB and not suffer massive disruption along the way, I hope they have a massive fund for passenger recovery around the country.

LPS500 17th Oct 2015 06:34

BNEA320, FFS they have 1 Saab, why do you think they would try to operate in Oz? :ugh: Yes Vincent did that with the 146, but they also had a base in Darwin with VH reg aircraft. The 146 was the downfall of Vincent (sort of) and finished them off. This is not a thread about Vincent so I’ll stop there.

Ollie, agreed. I’ve been wondering for some time where the money from the pre-booked tickets (if any) is currently sitting?

I wish them luck but there’s no AOC at the moment, proving flights yet to be done, and the FPP to pass for some.

One aircraft will present problems due unserviceability, and scheduled maintenance. Do they / will they have a maintenance presence at any of their scheduled ports of call?

As a round up, there are a lot of questions regarding this startup which I guess will come out in the wash………….. I guess we just watch this space……….

BNEA320 17th Oct 2015 09:16

Saab 340's are cheap to lease or buy esp A models, esp cf. similar sized Dash 8's. No 2 & 3 can't be that far away.

27/09 17th Oct 2015 21:18


BNEA320: Saab 340's are cheap to lease or buy esp A models, esp cf. similar sized Dash 8's. No 2 & 3 can't be that far away.
Unless you're a collector, you need work for the aircraft to justify to your backers that you should buy or lease it. So far they haven't proven they have work for the one they already have.

empacher48 20th Oct 2015 23:43

I guess things aren't looking too rosy for Ewan:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/7...tor-ban-ageist

and

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/7301...d-ticket-sales

But hey, any publicity must be good publicity... right?

On Track 21st Oct 2015 03:04

Had to laugh when I saw the photo of that tractor.

With regard to Queenstown, nobody is particularly happy with the airport operator but if gate 1 is good enough for the ATR pax it's good enough for the Saab pax as well - if there are any.

Steve Zissou 21st Oct 2015 03:26

Wow, ticket sales have been awful on the DUD-ZQN sector. Who would've guessed ...


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