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Old 27th Aug 2015, 03:24
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 06:11
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They still need an AOC. We'll see!
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 08:14
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I must be missing something, but given QN is a day-only airport, how do they expect to make these flights (particularly the evening one) for like 5 months of the year when it's dark at 6:05pm?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:52
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I may be wrong, but isn't Queenstown about to be approved for night operations?
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 11:58
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Can't see there being night ops at ZQN for non-RNP-AR approaches or departures if night ops do commence.
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Old 27th Aug 2015, 21:33
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 05:11
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their 1st Saab 340 arrived in NZL last week.


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Old 9th Sep 2015, 05:26
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Every aviation venture that this guy has touched has turned to crap, I wouldn't be too quick to put any money anywhere near it.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 05:49
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the actions of dodgy Air NZ, in sending Kiwi International to the wall, should have been challenged at the time. Freedom Air, operated at a loss, to kill them off. Highly illegal practices.


It should also be noted, that without a govt bailout, Air NZ wouldn't exist.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 07:14
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^^^ why should that be noted?? My point is that the last airline this guy was involved in resulted in lots of stranded passengers, aircraft being seized for non payment of airways charges and the director being convicted of 4 serious fraud charges, banned from operating a company for 5 years and the judge saying 'the director operated with NO moral regard'!

But hey, if you want to spend money on this venture don't let me stop you.

Just beacause a competitor puts you out of business doesn't stop you from pulling the pin earlier than this mob did resulting in 'misery' for lots of people.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 09:27
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I see Air NZ fares have dropped in some places and Jetstar hasn't even started flying the Q300s yet.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 10:04
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.Freedom Air, operated at a loss, to kill them off. Highly illegal practices.
eh?

didnt know the operating accounts of freedom were public? and even if they were, whats illegal about selling something for less than it cost you?
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 10:48
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BNEA320: the actions of dodgy Air NZ, in sending Kiwi International to the wall, should have been challenged at the time. Freedom Air, operated at a loss, to kill them off. Highly illegal practices.


It should also be noted, that without a govt bailout, Air NZ wouldn't exist.
Hmmm, I think Freedom operated for well after Kiwi folded, then the Freedom operation was rolled up into Air NZ mainline. I'm not sure your claim is correct.

Sure Air NZ took the battle to your friend Ewan, but only after he took them on head on. If he had stuck to routes not operated by Air NZ they would have left him alone. He didn't heed good advice though and cost a lot of people a lot of money.

As for the Air NZ bailout. Air New Zealand has to take some blame BUT the need for the bailout was largely brought about by dodgy underhand practices on the west side of the Tasman. The under arm bowling fiasco had nothing on the events that lead up to the bailout.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 06:21
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Ha ha. To all you people who think that air nz didn't employ bullying tactics to put kiwi international out of business, (along with origin and various predecessors) - what planet are you from? Watch this space as the shoe is now on the other foot - for once air nz isn't the biggest dog in the fight now that Jetstar is operating domestically. Ethical, no, but since when has business been about ethics?

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Old 10th Sep 2015, 07:35
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qantas is bigger than the nz govt?
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 08:38
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I am no defender of Air NZ but no one who sets up business in competition to anyone surely can't be surprised when the competitor uses its resources to squash you.

I don't get you saying that it is 'illegal' to lower your prices and make a loss to undercut your competitor. Many many businesses do exactly this to try and prevent a competitor gaining market share.
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I find it rather funny that people believe that Air NZ should do nothing when someone else starts competing with them. At the end of the day they are a business and no business is happy when people spend their money with someone else doing the same thing.

The CEO and board will ultimately have to explain themselves to the shareholders if profitability goes up in smoke because someone else competes and the CEO and board do nothing about that.

And get over the whole Government Investment. Yes they bought 75% of the company some 14 years ago, this has now reduced to 52%. They have no responsibility to the NZ Government other than providing income to the Government in the form of both taxes and dividend payments.
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Old 13th Sep 2015, 05:25
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apparently Wilson stretched the truth to a few wanka bankers, who didn't do their due diligence. How can you feel sorry for wanka bankers who didn't do their jobs.
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He also left a lot of other innocent folk out of pocket, people who did their jobs, not just the bankers you refer to.
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apparently Wilson stretched the truth to a few wanka bankers, who didn't do their due diligence. How can you feel sorry for wanka bankers who didn't do their jobs.
apparently?

you wouldnt have a fkn clue.
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