Just received an update on the legal proceedings.

For the terminated 8 pilots, PX filed an appeal against the decision of the lower court that it is a private organisation and that the case is therefore a private matter and subject to damages only and not judicial review.

The appeal was heard on 6/12/16 and on 9/12/16 the judge ruled that PX was in fact a public company and therefore judicial review is available to the terminated pilots.

That case is now scheduled for hearing on 22/12/16.

The case for the contract is still scheduled for 11 and 12 Jan 2017.

Heard on the grapevine that PX could only recruit 4 Fokker F/O's, 2 of which the fleet manager vetoed but he was over ruled by a higher authority.

Also lease on Hell on vista will expire on 31 Dec so crew will be back into random hotels and left with nowhere to store their trunks. They will be waiting for the completion of Faulty Towers but may have to wait a little longer as I am told money has run out and PX cannot afford to furnish it!

Airways Appartments may have a few serviced 3 bedrooms units up on the VOR/DME hill going for rent. They were going pretty cheap when I lived there for 12 months!!!!!!!

The court hearing for the 8 suspended national pilots took place on December 22nd. The judge has retired to consider his verdict. It should be handed down during January. The other court action over contracts, is scheduled for January 10th and 11th.

More cases of missing annual leave are appearing as pilots and engineers alike go to check their entitlements only to be told that instead leave days available they now owe days, in some cases up to 100 days.
Word from one dept manager is "no one has really made a fuss about it so HR will keep taking it away".

Think long and hard before you take a job with this Mob !!!!!!!!

great company to work for in the eighties...went downhill after they devalued the kina..I remember getting $1.65 for a kina in those days.

Localisation of higher management has not worked and Fooeconomics is a bloody disaster.:ugh:

Latest memo from the world best HR manager:

Annual leave, use it or lose it.

But due to the shortage of pilots you cant take leave.

Many not taking leave working multiple day off to get the money,

Result = huge fatigue risk = you get tired pilots = you get stuff ups.

Will PNG's best HR Manager take the heat when a hull gets buried and the long suffering customers - his innocent fellow country men get hurt or worse

From a very reliable source this morning.

4th floor is having a crisis meeting this morning because with a fokker fleet of 12 aircraft being crewed by 25 Captains and 23 F/O's they cannot understand why crewing cannot roster all the scheduled and unscheduled flights.

Useless crewing. 😂

Reported back in this post http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...ml#post9525502 that PX was not to plan Tokua as a night alternate but according to a reliable source it has now occurred on a scheduled Micronesia flight at night.

Kavieng was NOTAM'ed as not available and Tokua was NOTAM'ed as STBY power unreliable yet PX planned and the PIC accepted the single engine alternate as Tokua even though the PX written policy is not to be use it as well ignoring the CASA lighting requirement Regs.

Wonder if it was the same Captain that accepted a Fokker with only the center tank fuel pump operational?

Breaking news is that the scheduled hearing commencing on the 11th is no longer scheduled. The Judge does not return from leave until the 1st of Feb. so the case cannot proceed until he returns.

At this stage they have not relisted it so a hearing date is yet to be advised.

After 2 years what is another month or two?

Busy day in paradise.

My source now tells me the Tokua incident had the approval of both Toofar and the fleet manager. The Captain was also a training Captain and accepted the plan.

There are those that now have serious concerns about the dramatic reduction in safety standards being demonstrated by those that should know better and believe that a serious accident is not too far away.

Hot off the press from my insider:

The court case is on again tomorrow!!!!

The pilot's Lawyer went to the Court house at 0830 this morning to be told that the case which was listed as "Judge xxxx's case" will now be heard but under a different Judge, the one that PX wanted because they are desperate to avoid Judge xxxx.

An associate contacted Judge xxxx , who was on holidays in Oz and told him that the case was to be heard now by the new Judge.

Judge xxxx said “definitely not, that’s my case” AND he has flown back to PNG today and he will be hearing the case tomorrow.

PX's underhanded skulduggery has failed.

Just been informed at this mornings hearing several matters were addressed but because a document was served on PX one day late the matter has yet again been adjourned for hearing now on 1, 2 and 3 of February.

The wheels of justice turn slowly but they are turning.

PX continues it's downward spiral.

Latest info is that 6 Fokkers were grounded yesterday. A new record. Could this coincide with the rumours that the engineers have just about had enough of current management?

Also of interest is that not one of the scheduled overnights actually overnighted. Morbid hotels had a field day with disgruntled PX passengers.

From my source "Shows what two years of mad management can do to 40 years of proud service."

and the ceo is still there ?
fooeconomics at its worst:{

Are they still trying to recruit with any success from far flung countries?

Gotta remember who the owner is faheel! Good to get on the piss in BNE last year to see our great mate off, I can still remember the hangover!

The 2017 contract is due March/April. How are the negotiations going.

Is it looking like the the 2017 one will be better or worse than the 2015 one.

Negotiations? Hahahahahahaha

Best joke I have heard for a very long time.

How many Captains on the Q400 Fleet these days?

I'm not sure you could call one Q400 a 'fleet' Mangi Fokker

I think the PX AOC and suite of PNG CASA Approved manuals would dictate that. Although I'm not sure who occupies the Fleet Manager and Check Capt positions.

Only one captain left on Q400. No check and training - no fleet captain. Must be great fun for him. But how can you call that a fleet.

P2-ANH was sighted in DRW late this arvo. Thought it might have been on a recruiting roadshow trying to tap into the fresh CPLs door knocking the GA operators.

It was at DPS earlier in the day - I thought it was going back to POM when I saw it but interesting that it stopped at DRW.

On the way back from Fokker Services at Seletar - probably C Check, if it is a normal Fokker Services check then it will have been away that long PX have probably forgotten they own it.

Court case Start's tomorrow and is scheduled for 3 days, 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Will post updates as they come to hand.

Poxie are going in with the big guns - they have employed a Queens Council from Australia to defend them over the next 3 days.

Also seems like the internal cancer is spreading - joining the long list of resignations, 2 expat ops managers have now resigned and are returning to the sub continent.

As for flight cancellations they are a daily occurrence with no-one batting an eyelid as it is considered to be "ops normal".

With reference to the sole remaining Q400 the board has decreed that it shall remain in operation with it's one Captain. Interestingly he is off to do a sim check conducted by a Checkie who left the fleet 10 - 12 months ago and is now on the Fokker fleet!!

Poxie standards at their best.

Did anyone turn up to court today or has a new date been set?

Just in:

THE case went ahead as planned with the pilots taking the witness stand on the first day and the world's best HR manager and Toofar today.

All witnesses were cross examined.

Summations are tomorrow with an anticipated decision in "about a week"

I believe the evidence given by Looneygona actually worked in the pilot's favour but time will tell.

Final submission were heard today and decision "expected to be 2 - 4 weeks"

Aside from the case I was informed by a very a reliable source that 2 of the terminated pilots who called in sick recently had gained employment with opposition companies. Both have now been terminated. I am led to believe it is because poxie put pressure on the guvment to have them terminated.

Also have it from extremely reliable source that those companies have been told they are now not permitted to employ any pilot from poxie!

On a final note reports have been filtering thru that when flights arrive at FMS in the middle of the night there is only 1 light working on the PAPI.

FMS, which comes under USA admin, will not issue a NOTAM. Poxie is aware of this yet still roster flights knowing that there is no approach lighting system. Unfortunately flight crew do not have a leg to stand on by refusing to conduct the flights as there is no NOTAM but knowing full well that there is no functioning approach lighting.

If only the fleet office and CP could put pressure on the company to stop this madness before an accident occurs.

Ahh poxie flight standards at it's best.

I hear the Q400 fleet is currently U/S in Wewak awaiting an engine.

A number of the terminated pilots have been recruited by the new airline Wantok Air formally TA.. and a number of pilots from Link & ANG have been for interviews in Dec/Jan.

EBK

Hearing the same as you, a real shame when the Flag carrying National Airline (i.e. Air Niugini) is so ill regarded that a start up such a Wantok Air may become the preferred employer.

But then it was also a real shame that the only way the guys could talk with Management about work conditions was to take the company to the National Court. .....btw any outcome yet.

Been told Judge is fairly quick in making decisions and expect maybe 2 - 4 weeks.

The national pilots lost their court case according Facebook.

Sorry Nogot hyperlink.

Ref the Duck post...not Facebook but one I found at Loop PNG.

http://www.looppng.com/png-news/px-p...iewable”-51827

The insanity continues at PX.

Just received a pilots roster that has 87 sectors in 15 days of flying!! They do not have enough pilots and are flogging those that are there while 8 remain terminated because they called in sick.

Recent report also tells me that the "blue shirts" no longer work night shift only leaving the already overworked LAME's to not only do the maintenance but also the task of re-positioning a/c around the bays and hangars. HR at it's best.

But then again with a record being set recently with 9 out of 11 Fokkers U/S on the same day along with continual cancellations, the inability to recruit and not required to justify the non service to passengers, one wonders where it will all end.

Airhead,seems at the current rate,it would have to end fairly soon?

15 X 6 sector days, those guys will be like zombies. I feel I've worked hard if I get 3 X 4 sector days in a month.

Next step is money runs out, bills and wages don't get paid and the creditors move in.