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TBM-Legend 7th Sep 2014 01:49

What does all this drivel have to do with Wellcamp? Flight and Duty times are applicable everywhere..

BNEA320 8th Sep 2014 01:18

+ADL, CNS & MEL + 2 other cities
 
Wellcamp plans: direct to Cairns, Adelaide, Melbourne | Toowoomba Chronicle


"that Melbourne, Adelaide and Cairns would almost certainly be serviced directly from the Wellcamp airport by Qantas, and another couple of cities were likely as well.
Wellcamp and Qantas were well advanced in their talks"


wonder what aircraft? Wouldn't be a Q400 for those routes.

MaxFL360 8th Sep 2014 01:33

would most likely go to cobham on those routes. 717 would seem logical. not sure if they could fill a 738. And is the city of toowoomba really expecting 1.5 million to fly in annually within 12-18 months? There are only 13,000 flying in a year with skytrans and the new qlink route will only bring in ~40,000 pax PA

BNEA320 8th Sep 2014 02:50

yes but you forget about all those that currently drive to BNE or OOL + those who think, it's currently all too hard & expensive.


There will always be some cheap seats on any services.


Maybe F70's or F100's might work better than 717's ?

Eddie Bauer 8th Sep 2014 03:23

Would there be potential for QF to bring Network in to fly those routes if the rumour is dinkum?

601 8th Sep 2014 04:44


lifts by Gowrie mountain
The fog lifts half way down the runway at TWB.

Cactusjack 8th Sep 2014 06:36


The fog lifts half way down the runway at TWB.
Correct. It's an interesting weather pattern at the current aerodrome, often there is fog up to half way along the Runway, while the range and Toowoomba city remains clear. This same phenomena won't affect Wellcamp to the same degree. I have also seen Dash 8's iced up enough that de-icing equipment would have been handy early in the morning, but that level of icing only happens maybe twice per year. Instead you just tow the aircraft into a position facing the sun and let Mother Nature de-ice it naturally. It's a pain in the ass for a few hours with a flow on delay but as I said it is a rare occurrence.

megle2 9th Oct 2014 09:48

Story goes that ticket purchases to Sydney ex YBWW have been Qantas's most successful route launch to date
Maybe the 400 is too small already

BNEA320 9th Oct 2014 22:56

or maybe many people want it to look that way. Wagners alone are apparently spending over $200,000,000.00 of their own money.


What's a few $1000 more on tickets to be thrown around.


The test will be in a few months time, if VA decide to do the route or an alternative like to MEL maybe using an E-190. MEL is a bit too far in a Dash 8 (any Dash 8)

onehitwonder 9th Oct 2014 23:04

I recall doing a charter in a -300, granted the -400 is a bit quicker
Brissy - Thangool - Tamworth (refuel) - Melbourne - Brisbane. ONE LONG DAY in the Dash

Geoff Fairless 10th Oct 2014 02:47

Brisbane Basin Air Services
 
The great thing about Wellcamp that is being missed in this thread is how it complements air services in the Bris Basin area.

We now have the best distribution of airports of any city in Australia. Imagine how busy SYD airport would be if the citizens of that city were able to fly into SYD North (our Sunshine Coast), SYD South (our Gold Coast) and SYD West (now our Wellcamp) as well as SYD CBD (our Brisbane Airport).

Well done the Wagners!

BNEA320 10th Oct 2014 03:27

am sure Wagners will make it work. Hope VA starts flying there soon.

601 10th Oct 2014 05:09


We now have the best distribution of airports of any city in Australia. Imagine how busy SYD airport would be if the citizens of that city were able to fly into SYD North (our Sunshine Coast), SYD South (our Gold Coast) and SYD West (now our Wellcamp) as well as SYD CBD (our Brisbane Airport).
Brisbane (AMB):cool:

Porjo 16th Nov 2014 23:50

First Qantas flight to/from Sydney took place this morning.

Anyone know what VHF frequencies are being used at this airport? Is it just standard CTAF 126.7 ?

triadic 17th Nov 2014 08:14

CTAF 127.65. ERSA 13nov14 FAC B-1

At the moment it seems to be "uncharted".....!


Looking at their web page and their conditions of use (46 pages!!) and charges, they certainly don't want any form of GA ops... Min $200 !!

They also prescribe radio calls far in excess of the CASA requirements, which is not really appropriate sice the CTAF is shared by other aerodromes in the vicinity.

Creampuff 17th Nov 2014 10:01


At the moment it seems to be "uncharted".....!
Not if you read NOTAMs. :=

illusion 17th Nov 2014 17:48

Triadic,
When you invest $200,000,000 in a private business, you call the shots. Light aircraft under 20 tonne should have been banned from Sydney years ago and the Wagners seem to be drawing the line from day one.

Why risk high capacity RPT and international freight connections with private aircraft? The risks in a CTAF environment far outweigh a few bob in extra income.

601 17th Nov 2014 21:30

I note the media are spooking the line that this is the first public airport built in Oz since Tulla.

Did the airport at Hamilton Island just fall out of orbit?

Capt Fathom 18th Nov 2014 09:33


Light aircraft under 20 tonne should have been banned from Sydney years ago
Do enlighten us!

jportzer 19th Nov 2014 22:32


Looking at their web page and their conditions of use (46 pages!!) and charges, they certainly don't want any form of GA ops... Min $200 !!
There is a page here that says it's $16 per tonne with a minimum $60. Certainly not great but better than $200?
http://www.wellcamp.com.au/media/162...ee-summary.pdf

Or am I missing something?


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