QF to Wellcamp(BWW)
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QF to Wellcamp(BWW)
EXCLUSIVE: Qantas swoops first at Wellcamp | Toowoomba Chronicle
Hope Wagners didn't give too many concessions to QF.
Would have thought Tiger would have been better suited, but maybe QF will us smaller jets like 717's ?
Hope Wagners didn't give too many concessions to QF.
Would have thought Tiger would have been better suited, but maybe QF will us smaller jets like 717's ?
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so 11 return flights a week from 17NOV. Guess that means 2 a day Mon-Fri (am & pm) one on weekend probably Sun pm.
Wonder where aircraft will be based ?
If at SYD & not BWW, then will have to be a very early departure from SYD (before 0600 ?)
Think passengers would have much preferred a jet like a 717 or E190 or even a BAe146.
Just found this schedule
to SYD
1 *QF2015 X67 WTB SYD 1 0520 0755 0 18NOV14 19DEC14 DH4 2:35
2 *QF2017 6 WTB SYD 1 0730 1005 0 22NOV14 28MAR15 DH4 2:35
3 *QF2017 X67 WTB SYD 1 0935 1210 0 17NOV14 24DEC14 DH4 2:35
& back
1 *QF2016 1 SYD 1 WTB 0755 0835 0 17NOV14 17NOV14 DH4 0:40
2 *QF2016 X67 SYD 1 WTB 0810 0850 0 18NOV14 24DEC14 DH4 0:40
3 *QF2018 X6 SYD 1 WTB 1755 1835 0 17NOV14 19DEC14 DH4 0:40
Wow only 40 mins SYD/WTB !!!!
Obviously they have not taken into account daylight saving time in SYD.
Wonder where aircraft will be based ?
If at SYD & not BWW, then will have to be a very early departure from SYD (before 0600 ?)
Think passengers would have much preferred a jet like a 717 or E190 or even a BAe146.
Just found this schedule
to SYD
1 *QF2015 X67 WTB SYD 1 0520 0755 0 18NOV14 19DEC14 DH4 2:35
2 *QF2017 6 WTB SYD 1 0730 1005 0 22NOV14 28MAR15 DH4 2:35
3 *QF2017 X67 WTB SYD 1 0935 1210 0 17NOV14 24DEC14 DH4 2:35
& back
1 *QF2016 1 SYD 1 WTB 0755 0835 0 17NOV14 17NOV14 DH4 0:40
2 *QF2016 X67 SYD 1 WTB 0810 0850 0 18NOV14 24DEC14 DH4 0:40
3 *QF2018 X6 SYD 1 WTB 1755 1835 0 17NOV14 19DEC14 DH4 0:40
Wow only 40 mins SYD/WTB !!!!
Obviously they have not taken into account daylight saving time in SYD.
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probably not for a 125 seater, especially at Qantas prices.
The 717-200's operated for QF by Cobham have 115 seats we think. Not sure of exact seating on 717's that operate to CBR now.
Cobham also have 146-100 with 71 seats we believe.
Alliance & Network have F100's.
Alliance also has F70's.
Think quite a few of these aircraft are doing stuff all at present.
Obviously Cobham & Alliance costs are dramatically lower than QF.
The 717-200's operated for QF by Cobham have 115 seats we think. Not sure of exact seating on 717's that operate to CBR now.
Cobham also have 146-100 with 71 seats we believe.
Alliance & Network have F100's.
Alliance also has F70's.
Think quite a few of these aircraft are doing stuff all at present.
Obviously Cobham & Alliance costs are dramatically lower than QF.
Not when you factor in having to base aircraft and crew to do this. Cobham and Alliance won't wear these costs for free you know!
Remember too that QLink just stopped SYD-GLT so that aircraft will now do BWW. When SYD-GLT started, there were plenty out there saying that it must be a 717 as the market will dictate it. Guess what, the market still wanted to choose from the up to 9 flights a day via BNE.
This is by far the lowest cost way to try the market. Should the Q400 fill up, then maybe they'll look at it.
Remember too that QLink just stopped SYD-GLT so that aircraft will now do BWW. When SYD-GLT started, there were plenty out there saying that it must be a 717 as the market will dictate it. Guess what, the market still wanted to choose from the up to 9 flights a day via BNE.
This is by far the lowest cost way to try the market. Should the Q400 fill up, then maybe they'll look at it.
The 717-200's operated for QF by Cobham have 115 seats we think. Not sure of exact seating on 717's that operate to CBR now.
125 seats or 110 with Business class config.
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BNEA320...ahh no.
Nothing has been announced through official channels re. BWW base. One look at the schedule would show that there would most likely be an overnighting aircraft in Wellcamp (all bets are on SYD crew doing these flights). They can't even maintain an ADL (on again - off again) base let alone somewhere west of Toowoomba.
I would suggest that you holster that mouth of yours before you start shooting from it.
This is how foolish rumors start.
Not every port has an overnighting crew. All the inland QLD ports don't have overnights - just really early originating flights from Brisbane.
MOV was looked at for overnights at one stage, but the hoteliers wouldn't give QF a contract concession when they can charge the mining companies four times the price.
RMA was looked at then shelved because of no de-icing gear for those chilly mornings.
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Nothing has been announced through official channels re. BWW base. One look at the schedule would show that there would most likely be an overnighting aircraft in Wellcamp (all bets are on SYD crew doing these flights). They can't even maintain an ADL (on again - off again) base let alone somewhere west of Toowoomba.
I would suggest that you holster that mouth of yours before you start shooting from it.
This is how foolish rumors start.Not every port has an overnighting crew. All the inland QLD ports don't have overnights - just really early originating flights from Brisbane.
MOV was looked at for overnights at one stage, but the hoteliers wouldn't give QF a contract concession when they can charge the mining companies four times the price.
RMA was looked at then shelved because of no de-icing gear for those chilly mornings.
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Proper airlines and a proper airport - great news!
Skytrans took no time at all in announcing they were bolting from the Toowoomba/Sydney route;
Wagner wants a million passengers within two years | Toowoomba Chronicle (read the Skytrans statement)
What a ridiculous press release! Who writes such lame folly? Entrepreneurs? Handing it to QF? Yeah sure they did. They are opting out because there is no fighting fund in the empty kitty. Also when they set up Toowoomba/Roma operations it lasted only a few months before 'putting Toowoomba/Roma operations on hold'. They stopped that route months before QF announced Wellcamp operations, so it would seem that their foray into the region was a flop;
Skytrans puts flights on pause | Gladstone Observer
I think that Qantas and JetGo operations out of Wellcamp is just the ticket. Better aircraft, better services, and proper airline structures compared to a 'family airline' service. Miners and business travellers need the proper structured airlines to meet their needs, and Qantas and JetGo will provide that
How long until the old airport is turned into a housing estate? The region certainly has enough gas deposits to keep it going for some time to come.
Perhaps the Wilds can invest in the new Toowoomba range bypass instead?
Wagner wants a million passengers within two years | Toowoomba Chronicle (read the Skytrans statement)
What a ridiculous press release! Who writes such lame folly? Entrepreneurs? Handing it to QF? Yeah sure they did. They are opting out because there is no fighting fund in the empty kitty. Also when they set up Toowoomba/Roma operations it lasted only a few months before 'putting Toowoomba/Roma operations on hold'. They stopped that route months before QF announced Wellcamp operations, so it would seem that their foray into the region was a flop;
Skytrans puts flights on pause | Gladstone Observer
I think that Qantas and JetGo operations out of Wellcamp is just the ticket. Better aircraft, better services, and proper airline structures compared to a 'family airline' service. Miners and business travellers need the proper structured airlines to meet their needs, and Qantas and JetGo will provide that
How long until the old airport is turned into a housing estate? The region certainly has enough gas deposits to keep it going for some time to come.
Perhaps the Wilds can invest in the new Toowoomba range bypass instead?
