Qantas has never recovered since Geoff Dixon left.

Qantas IS a listed company, EVOLVE with the times or DISSOLVE.

Ditzyboy,

Fwiw ... I know how hard you guys work.

+1 from a guy up the front.


N

ps ... Valdwhatever ... wrong forumn .. you are after the amateur CEO's forumn ....

Dixon
 

Ertimus
Wasn't it Dixon who put Joyce there....?
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noip

You are wrong, Qantas is not a toy for pilots, flight attendants, ground staff or engineers.
Good night, DREAMERS :ugh:

Valdwhatever,

And that is where YOU don't get it. The STAFF at QF WANT it to be successful. They KNOW that it is not easy. This has nothing to do with a plaything. They WANT to finish their careers knowing that they contributed to something that was remarkable and successful.

As I said before ... you are after the Amateur CEO's forumn....

N

Offensive to you ditzyboy..
unfortunately not to the majority of your co-workers.
Qantas has a very real problem with its workforce.. A whole lot of rott and they feed off each other!
I'm sick of hearing Qantas staff at large blaming it on management for not engaging them properly.. seriously??
A lot of egotistical, lazy and greedy people.
Unless they lose some of their trouble makers and make the remainders realise that they DON'T have a job for life they are on borrowed time.
I'm so sick of hearing excuses.. They start with AJ and they continue through the entire workforce.

Amazing ... a thread that started out to support QF staff and the trolls are out in force.

Bodybag .. what an appropriate name ...

N

Spot on Noip, sad that some people want to make comments like above, particularly on a day like today and it's a pilots forum...

I wonder how some posters on here would have handled this car sized situation..?

The pilots & cabin crew did a wonderful job that day, in the true spirit of Qantas, just ask anyone who was on that flight! :ok:




A bit of respect please....

Probably like an overseas Airline Pilot handled US Airways Flight 1549.

Whilst I understand the emotion and note that you politely ask for a "bit of respect", but please realise that respect is a two way street.

"Best Practice" is not the sole domain of your airline.

However, all the best...

Au Contraire,

Best practice should be the sole domain of EVERY airline.

noip,
You are genuinely delusional..
Assuming you work for Qantas.. I can tell you now, you are not special.. You were led to believe that sometime ago but you weren't then and you definitely aren't now.
You are an over-paid, under-worked burden on a publicly listed company.. (Generally speaking)
What you have had (collectively) in the past is not sustainable in this environment.
Don't get me wrong.. I think that AJ should go.. He has failed in his job.
However.. Anyone that tries to manage Qantas with its current inflexible, over entitled and egotistical workforce (backed by unrealistic, greedy unions) is going to struggle before they've even stepped up to the plate.
The workers at Qantas have the ability to turn this around.. but I guarantee they won't. They are too greedy, too selfish. It's easier to blame everyone else..
WAKE UP! It's not the 1980's / 90's anymore..

'baggy' yr in the minority here thank God but having said that there is some realization to be had here to.
The stable working world as we once knew it is fast finishing, the good 'ole days as they say are coming to an end in all industries BUT & here's the catch 22 situation. The QF workers 'might' be able to turn the Co around by way of working more, getting less $$ basically being more productive with the product they have but those same workers still live in an ever increasing cost base world outside of their own working world, there in lies the problem for any worker, their world continues to cost more so you can't expect anyone to on one hand take a pay cut & with all that it entails yet on the other hand expect to put bread on their families table with less.

Nobody wins here other than the fat-cats at the top, the rich get richer & the poor get poorer, always been that way always will.
It's the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest.


Wmk2

Bodybag,

So full of hate, with no credibility. Sad.

I did you the courtesy of checking your profile .. nothing .. at least I have put the essentials of my credentials on my profile.

Like I have said on other threads .. don't let hate and ideology blind you to the truth. Sadly I think that may be in your case.

N

PS .. whilst I'm sure my message will fall on deaf ears ... that is the truth .. people just don't want to believe that the QF workforce really want to make this whole thing a success. And yet they have to be subjected to the abuse that Bodybag has let forth on me a couple of messages ago.

Why, as I get older I am less tolerant of people ....

N

I do love it how observers are so quick indicate that the "majority of my coworkers" don't share my vested interest in the long term success of the company.

I think you will find that we try damn hard to keep our workplace sustainable and the customers coming back.

Thanks for the support.

bodybag,


Your 1st 5 words say it all...."YOU... ARE GENUINELY DELUSIONAL ASSUMING"... QF staff are a bit cranky at the moment, and there's good reason to be that way.


A few tit bits for you to try and consume...


1..At last years AGM AJ announces a meagre profit, yet the very next day pours $60M plus into JETCANCER JAPAN. Where did the $$$ come from???


2..JETCANCER ASIA,JAPAN,HONG KONG,(RED Q) aircraft sitting idle on the ground all over the world(out of pollies eyes) earning zip but accruing enormous parking fees. Where is the $$$ coming from???


3..Massive cargo cartel fines. Where did the $$$ come from for the payment of fines???


4..I won't bore you with the fuel efficient qualities of the B777 because according to my Batchelor of Arts degree holding manager, the Trippler is "old technology". What the :mad: would humble I and the rest of the worlds B777 operating airlines know??? We got it wrong and my "manager" is right!!!


5..So in a nutshell bodybag, that is just a small bit of the $$$ wasteage and why we workers at the coalface are to blame for all of this mismanagement and $$$ wasteage. Because obviously we make all the decisions around here and the board just carry out our orders.


6..So, bodybag, could you please back up your assumptions with some COLD HARD SET IN CONCRETE FACTS!!!


McHale.

Where is Leigh Clifford?
 

The day the Qantas credit rating was reduced to junk status in Dec, the AFR reported that Chairman Leigh was out enjoying a few rounds at Royal Melbourne.

Qantas today announced the biggest financial loss and restructure in its' history with massive politically sensitive staff cuts. Where is Chairman Leigh today?

Chairman Leigh earned about $700k in fees and benefits in FY13. What exactly has he been doing for this remuneration? Why has he not sacked Alan Joyce, based on Joyce's failed performance? Why has Chairman Leigh not stood down?

In December QBE Chair Belinda Hutchinson, fell on her sword ahead of a big profit downgrade and potential shareholder backlash. Why is Qantas so different? Why is the board not accountable?

Clearly Alan Joyce does not have the intestinal fortitude to admit his errors and resign. The focus of this train wreck should therefore be squarely placed on one Leigh Clifford and it should be shouted from the rooftops!

There is always hope that AJ's name will also make it on the list of workers to be sacked.

Working for another company I used to support two of Qantas' websites which serviced about 13,000 Qantas staff. It provided me with a glimpse of life inside Qantas from the outside. Dedication was a trait that I regularly came across when I worked with Qantas staff on issues that needed resolution.

It saddens me to know that many of these 13,000 staff will have to deal with a very unsavoury future situation. Some of them are people I knew before I landed the gig.

Chin up and keep a positive mindset in the face of all this soul destroying corporate vandalism that is not of your making.

I have more confidence that Joyce will be gone sooner rather than later.

Neil Mitchell is now calling for his resignation, powerful friend there :ok:

And Nathan Safe (sorry, is that his name?) Did a sterling job this morning on today :ok: Keep it up boys and girls. Get rid of this dark stain on Australian aviation.

Anyone catch Joyce's interview on Sunrise? :yuk:

Well done to either Andrew/Samantha for asking the question, 'should you be sacked' directly to Joyce :ok: