"The Jetstar Group’s fleet order strategy allows for a flexible approach with the allocation of flying resources."


Honestly. Who writes this stuff?

If the allocation of flying resources within the group was flexible. The aircraft wouldn't be in storage.

Godwin's Law be damned.

My family kept 6 Jews in their house with the Gestapo living next door in occupied Europe. My grandmother had a new TV delivered to her door from the US every year from 1946 until she died. My Uncle had his head shaved every time he went to school because he was branded a collaborator - his family couldn't share food with the resistance as they had 6 secret mouths to feed. He committed suicide later in life as a direct result of that.

So I know a little about 'Ze Germans'.

What 'Ze Germans' from that particular point in history teach us is the catastrophic failures 'Group Think' on a grand scale cause. The NAZI's made every possible management mistake you could conceivably make. Why is it that in a 'Scientologist' type argument you can automatically use 'Ze Germans' to belittle an opponents argument? Take away the Holocaust and you have one of the best examples of well documents managerial f&&ck ups you could possibly have.

I see great management parallels in the QF disaster - and in fact many management screw ups in the Nazi regime. The holocaust is a separate issue. And I believe my family suffered enough for me to point that out to people. Don't lose sight of the lessons of history.

I'd call that EXCEPTIONAL flexibility Mstr Caution, they have so much flexibility in what they can do.

Got an Aircraft broken down?
No problemo! Just whip one out of storage!
Maybe they'll decide to have a quick run to Hong Kong to see how the paperwork is all coming along?
No problemo! Just whip one out of storage!
Delays causing peoples flights to back up?
No problemo! Just scurry up some of those lazy inefficient Pilots sitting around of their own accord doing nothing and fly one out to pick up the slack a bit!

See? EXCEPTIONAL Flexibility I reckon. They should take them and have them posted in strategic locations all over the globe, just sitting, nay!! Crouching, like a Tiger!! Waiting to attack any problem that may confront the good ship Qantas and its merry group of followers!

mstr caustion

youre incorrect and looking at it all wrong

flying resources are being very carefully allocated with great flexibilty to parking spots right around the network. by ordering even more that they dont have work for only increases this flexibility

i think this is what they meant

MC, it gets worse when you hear it reported on a finance video page, check this one out,

News Item : Jestar?s Asia expansion plans stall

I reckon there would be a few airline observers rolling on the ground in laughter after watching this gem.. "operational spares" ;)

wow..

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"operational spares" is bull****. No airline has had operational spares since at least 1984. You buy it, you fly it or you lose money.

Not quite Sunfish......

I think it was Jim Hacker or Sir Humphrey or Paul Keating who first crystallised the concept of dressing up what you've already done and calling it your Plan....that way you're never wrong, always on track.

The monumental stuff ups just keep rolling on!! I can almost hear the laughter of Airline execs the world over! This guy is truly a clown!

TheThe,

You are forgetting about Lion's Boeing orders... The 787-9 order book is even larger. Lion Air has a ridiculous number of planes on order. I don't know if there is enough tarmac space in Indonesia for them.

The worst thing is that these Bozos believe there own spin, and it becomes in their minds, the way they planned it

The spin doctors must be patting themselves on the back for that 'magic trick'. They managed to turn a large number (lease costs etc) into a small number (a small number of planes). Makes you sick that they try it on, it makes you even sicker that the press lap it up and then regurgitate it. :yuk:

The Jurnos get their upgrades and Qantas Club access, makes a good story in the Press, it's a win-win situation.
The impartially of the Fourth Estate, yeah right!

Another interesting take on it.

Analyst tells Joyce: divide Qantas to fix 'broken' business model

So let me get this right.

Qantas Mainline are being deprived of capital.

Qantas are awaiting the return of A330's from JQ to allow the retirement of older, less fuel efficient aircraft.

Qantas desperately need new aircraft like the 787 to allow it to improve network and product.

Whilst JQ are parking brand new aircraft against the fence and calling them "operational spares"

The only time I've heard of airlines carrying operational spares are when they are retiring a fleet. They may reduce the flying program of individual aircraft as they find buyers or delay the requirement for Maintanence.

MC.

When Alan Joyce said these new aircraft require less Maintanence less often.

It all makes sense now.

When your not flying these brand new aircraft you can reduce your Maintanence bill.

The mans a genius.

Conspiracy theory alert...

Maybe these "operational spares" are laying in wait for another infamous Alan Joyce grounding. This time the spin will be something along the lines of "after much analysis we've come to the conclusion that drastic actions are necessary to save the Qantas Group".

Red tails parked, swapped overnight with Orange tails (with subsequent savings in workplace conditions). 12-18 months later, integrated new Jetstar/Qantas fusion livery.

They did say themselves that measure would be announced in Feb? AND that everything was on the table....:mad:

Qantas is junk; Negative Outlook

That should make Alan Happy?


The Australian:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/moodys-downgrades-qantas-to-junk-calls-outlook-negative/story-e6frg95x-1226798015415

I read a one liner quote from QF a while ago & did make mention of it in a post a few weeks back.

I don't have the exact quote, however it was something like.

OTHER ADDITIONAL JQ franchises in Asia are being put on hold as they concentrate on JQ Japan & Hong Kong.

I believe this is why so many other A320's are on order. For offer JQ franchises in Asia yet to be announced.

Just like having aircraft ready to go for JQ Hong Kong. They have ordered aircraft for other ventures yet to materialise in Asia.

MC.

Moody's follow S&P and downgrade Qantas .

I will repeat it until I am hoarse...
 

Bruce gave the gameplan away in 2011; they want to operate up to 400 aircraft in Asia by 2020. Domestic cashflow will siphoned to support this growth.

International simply isn't in their model, and must be reduced to the rump of A380's 747-ER's. They would get rid of it completely if they could.