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Pappa Smurf 29th Oct 2013 22:32

Just curious,
What is the percentage of AME,s to LAME,s on a roster.
I gather if the AME does the job,then the LAMEs check to see if alls ok then sign off.
If a LAME does the job he can sign off but what if he had a bad day,does another LAME check.

I gather the AME,s doing this aren't fresh on the floor,and had many years doing such tasks.

Silverado 29th Oct 2013 23:56


This is a joke. We have to sign, its our job, but I'll make it damn hard!
Where does it say I have to sign an experience book?

Apparently A License holders aren't LAMEs just AMEs with a license. It stands to reason that if they are not becoming LAMEs, then its got nothing to do with LAMEs.

Let the AMEs sort themselves out, since thats what the company wants.

LongTimeInCX 30th Oct 2013 00:34

SpannerTwister and Empire4 - spot on.

As a 'driver, airframes, for the use of', the passengers and I ultimately bear the brunt of where penny pinching schemes like this allow the holes in the cheese to line up, an aircraft and occupants end up in kit form, and for what?
A few dollars and someone elses climb up the managerial pole?

Having seen a system where the experienced incumbents were expected to train their cheaper, less experienced and less credentialled replacements, it does not work well. Even those that get through are sent off with mental fingers crossed behind ones back.

However, it sounds like you will enforce standards where 99% is not good enough, and for that, I for one as a driver am grateful.
The LAMEs we encounter route wide are in general experienced, capable and trustworthy, which sadly can not be said for many of the other 'trades' we are required to deal with while trying to get our passengers from A to B safely.

Clearly we have a vested interest in you keeping engineering standards high, long may they stay so.
Should your union be making this cheap skate standards erosion more public through the media so that passengers know their lives are likely to be more at risk than at present?

Kiwiconehead 30th Oct 2013 01:43

LongTimeInCX

Unfortunately the public thinks LAMEs all earn $160k a year and do nothing thanks to the publicity from a few tame media organisations and flat out lies that where postulated dur8ng the last LAMEs wage negotiations by management.

I support Steve and the rest of the ALAEA executive 100% in what they are trying to achieve.

I dont work for Qantas, I dont actually have a permanent job any more but am a contractor because that is what the industry wants now. I would love to have a job where I can drive my car from my house to work and home every day, instead of locking it in the garage for months while I chase the work.

Jacana 30th Oct 2013 04:49

Looks like its all too late now. Evolve or become extinct it seems


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