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Hand back your bonus and payrise you turd
Cant wait for the 787. Then you will have both it and the Dugong both grounded together due to design flaws. That is obviously his fantasy, he has a thing for having an airline that sits on the ground!!
Joyce, to borrow an expression from Ervin Staub in 'The Roots Of Evil' has 'completely excluded himself from our moral universe'. The interventions of conscience do not apply to him. Or in layman terms he is a turd. |
After his success at Air Lingus, and who could doubt his contribution to Ansett, we now have him turn his attention to QF, and the same feeling of uncertainty, the same feeling of uneasiness, the same feeling that we might be seeing the whole horrible Ansett scenario start all over again. It was never meant to be like this, not QF, always the boss, always the chief, always the National Carrier, could two men really reduce it to nothing in such a short time and get away with it? It would appear so.
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ohallen.
Apparently the interest in "Red Q" or whatever waned when SQ decided to form Scoot and announced SYD as the first destination. With Scoot announcing OOL as it's second destination and possibly BNE as it's third destination people are asking where is Jetstar ? |
The sooner Qantas gets rid of all those aluminy things and concentrates on it's core business the sooner they will start turning a profit again. Why they fly aeroplanes to anywhere in the world beats me seen as the Qantas board doesn't have anyone with airline experience on it what do these people do for theit exorbitant salaries??????:( Any person who could flip a 20cent coin would have come up with better solutions than the conga line of fools who have run Qantas since it was privatised.:ok:
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Pause for thought.
I am happy to allow more educated pens than mine explain the ways and means the stock market has of dealing with, recording and analyzing the way shares can be manipulated, by clever folk.
But, I am quite happy to go on record stating that the answers to everyone's questions may be found there; it may take a little digging but seek, and ye shall find. The 'airlines' well being (or not) is essentially immaterial, the riddle of the root of all evil holds the answers. There simply is no other logical equation that answers all the questions. Holmes - "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth". |
Who will this a..... Hole blame iff an overseas maint aircraft falls out of the sky they are machines they wear out not fixed properly wont stay up there Time to burst open the doors of the "sheltered workshop" and let some long awaited reality in. MP |
Egg hunt
And the real money in all of this is not the Irish turds salary, bonuses, retention payment, and other methods of filling his pocket, the egg hunt goes well beyond what can be seen. I have a well positioned source who although he won't name names, he recommends that one researches not the names of the executive managers but the names of their faEmily members, friends, lovers, closest business partners etc and see what companies, consultancies and suppliers names start popping up that are linked. That is where the big money earning schemes for the upper echelon sits. Apparently there may also just happen to be small to medium size service providers who provide PR training, accountancy, safety, I.T, management training and all sorts of little services that all add up to a small tidy fortune overall for some select individuals!
P.S Could somebody please advise Cosgrove that gorging from the QF trough is not doing his girth any good. Not a good look those tent sized suits he is borrowing from Laurrie Oakes. |
Red V's Blue
mmm .....pre "merger" AA 44 staff per A/C QF 85 staff per A/C
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Oh no, here they come! New Trolls, old Trolls, Ken B will be along next!
Looks like the QF spin machine has detected some anti QF feedback and it is time to 'summon the QF sleepers', the call has gone out to counteract the negative comments. |
Hope you're not affected with the 'realignment' Mr Managers Perspective. Imagine having to 'manage' people outside of the sheltered workshop.
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C'mon guys, do you really think you are the only ones in the world that can maintain aircraft? Time to burst open the doors of the "sheltered workshop" and let some long awaited reality in. MP From an engineer's perspective, we took ownership of the aircraft we worked on. We didn't just do the jobs the cards said to do. If we saw a problem outside the "zone", it was fixed. Aircraft reliability WAS at an all-time high. Aircraft groundings were virtually unheard of. Sure inflight service may not have been the best, but our aircraft were. And as Mr Joyce said today, "We can't keep propping up the past with the future". What clowns like yourself MP and the twelve sitting perched on the board don't realise or care about is that if it wasn't for the maintenance practices of the past we wouldn't have made it to today. MP, I hope you feel all safe and secure when you fly on an aeroplane that is maintained to just the bare minimum, because you may just make a landing on your bare backside. I hope I've opened the doors wide enough to let enough reality into your sheltered workshop and your very narrow perspective of what aircraft maintenance should be. |
Lateline/Business Video Combo
Last nights Lateline/Business report for those who missed it |
Qantas is in its death spiral. That is the general idea. Destroy the workforce and corporate intelligence, then take it private and start again.
That cruise I took around NZ really opened my eyes to what the future holds for the average worker if the powers that be get their way. The organisation of that cruiseship was so slick it was frightening. 1. Employment on short term contracts with no guarantee of renewal. That enures that Labor can never again organise itself because "troublemakers" don't get their contracts renewed. The cruise ship staff are all on Six month contracts. They change some staff at the end of each voyage - about Ten percent by my reckoning, its a continuous roll over process so that crews cannot form any relationships with each other past Six months. 2. Deliberate employment of foreign workers from a wide variety of countries. This is a divide and conquer strategy that further prevents unionisation. The benefit of this strategy, apart from preventing unionisation are: (i) Managers have absolute power over workers. One bark and your contract won't be renewed. (ii) The company can keep the age of its workforce constant by removing older workers. Forget about stuff like maternity leave as well. This approach also solves the "old boiler" problem. (iii) Wages can be kept constant at the minimum rate for English speakers. The "front of house" cruise ship staff came from Romania, Ukraine, Mexico, Thailand and a variety of other low cost countries. Engineers don't need English because the passengers don't see them. They may need a translator though. (iiii) There an be no question of informal leaders arising based on experience and capability. You cannot challenge the Manager. The assumptions management must make to implement this strategy are as follows: (a) Organisational memory, skill and expertise is not required because every action can be reduced to a written procedure and the work performed by a machine if at all possible. The expertise and skill must only reside in management. All else are worker bees. (b) There is an inexhaustible supply of people who will work for peanuts. (c) Governments will take no action to impede the process, nor will the public put pressure on Government to act. It appears that this is the Qantas philosophy. Joyce has already said that modern aircraft fix themselves and don't need a skilled workforce to maintain them. Check box (a). Joyce is already hiring foreign crews. Check box (b). Joyce alternatively threatens and cajoles Government. Check box (c). Unless tthe average Australian reacts, their future is rather bleak. |
On the news last night they said 50 pilots to be leave without pay, so how will hey choose these lucky few?
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Some 23 yrs ago there was a saying getting bantered around just prior to WW3..........."get yr affairs in order", Powerful words they where that apply today in our industry that is in crisis & is very fragile.
To think that AJ is 10 years younger than me & yet he's already made more enemies than anyone could over 10 life times!!!:ugh: Why wreck QF? ..........'cause it's wreckable"!! Wmk2 |
Well spoken QF94, and from a old Aviator, the type of Ginger you were/are were the very people who sent us off confident of the equipment you gave us, sadly for the pilots of the future they will not have the same confidence, not thru any fault of the Ginger that signs you out, but because of the fools that don't recognise that a aircraft that is fully maintained in Australia seamlessly, is generally a aircraft that is fairly good nick. Australia's record of safety is no coincidence, it is because of the extremely high engineering standards and flight crew training, but these fools are prepared to risk all this for the dollar, and we all know its not a case of if, but when, the first aircraft shaped hole emerges. We all know already it will not be the fault of management, that they will move heaven and earth to pin it on the probably deceased flight crew or the hapless LAME that signed it out. But try telling the public that, convinced that the evil unions are destroying the company, and Joyce is a manna from heaven, and because of their hatred and loathing of the present govt/unions, they will not be convinced until the inevitable happens. Meanwhile the pilots just pray they have engineers like QF94, who despite the crap he and his colleagues have to endure, they do what they do best, send out a aircraft that is as serviceable as it can be, even if they are not sure if the parts are authentic, or serviced as they should be. In my time that was never a question.
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Sorry, havent read all the thread but why would there be a big ad on seek.co.nz looking for engineers to setup a new widebody aircraft maintenance operation in or near the Auckland region. Coincidence or ??
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The advert on Seek is from Bermil more likely its for Hamilton which is not near Auckland its a 2 hour drive away for a small operater.
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Sunfish I think Tiger does this already with their Cabin Crew.
18 months is the expected time they are there for then go to other companies. No established culture, young and underpaid - so they leave for 'greener pastures'. But I feel that in years to come this type of endervaluing of experience and company culture will be studied under the subject "managerial failures" The 99% are also getting more pissed off me thinks - you can not treat staff with such disrespect and expect people to do their best with staff. Finally, what the leprec**t, his retarded replacement at the cancer and others of the same management school of f***wits do not know is that the more you treat staff like lemmings - typically people will revolt in subversive ways - like stealing company property (booze etc) and create extra costs that are not easily identifiable. Respect is a two way street you dumbasses := |
Hamilton? Bermil? Didnt think there was any operator down there with WideBody rqrmnts. Sorry, not in NZ at the moment so a bit out of touch locally.
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That's right there not its for some small joint that does paint work Bermil are bulltishing in the advert see APS Ltd » APS Ltd Bermil is just one guy operating out of his Home.
Not so out of touch :ok: |
cfukme ejthro thatw ashar dtoread
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Ahh, and theres me thinking summat big. But the contact is with Bermil Aerospace and looks like a Sydney number? Oh well, better head off to the sack....daily grind tomorrow!
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QUEENSLAND Premier Anna Bligh says her government will take legal action against Qantas if it moves a single job out of Brisbane's heavy maintenance facility. "Qantas is under a contract with the Queensland government until 2014 and we won't be hesitating to exercise penalties under that contract,'' she told reporters in Brisbane today. "The Queensland government brought Qantas' heavy maintenance facility here to Queensland and right now it employs more than 600 people. "We will fight tooth and nail to keep every single job at this Qantas facility. "This is their newest facility, it's their most state of the art, it is the most efficient. "They should be bringing more jobs to the Brisbane heavy maintenance facility, not taking any away.'' The airline yesterday said 500 positions would go from catering, cabin crew, pilots, engineering and ground operations. The cuts are on top of 1000 Qantas earlier said would be shed. Qantas is also reviewing its heavy maintenance facilities, with the aim of consolidating three facilities in Brisbane, Melbourne and Avalon, near Geelong.
So next year they have someone else to blame for their fall in profit. :ugh: |
I am constantly amazed by the whittling away of Qantas mainline jobs. I recently booked a flight on the Qantas web site and found that it now show both Qantas and Jetstar flights as being one and the same thing. So every (almost) second flight is a Jetstar flight, which should be Qantas work and is sold in place of an equivalent QF flight. No pretence of being a separate company with it's own agenda. Just a strait invasion of Qantas flights by a cut price parasite. If Jetstar is a separate company aiming at a different market, it's flights should not be a substitute for the 'real thing' and should occupy it's own space only. (I am not a Qantas pilot.) This is blatantly a whitanting of Qantas work. QF management are shedding Qantas jobs by moving them to the cheaper (?) operator.
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Soup Nazi *On the news last night they said 50 pilots to be leave without pay, so how will hey choose these lucky few? |
Teresa, I still am an engineer with QANTAS. I intend to be till the end. I, and many like myself will delay an aircraft if need be if it's not right. We use the mantra of management "Safety Before Schedule". They don't like us using it if it causes a delay, but they'll put it out in the media to show that they are carrying the legacy of QANTAS tradition if there's a PR problem.
It's not just the engineers, it's also the pilots (the more experienced ones anyway) that can bung on an argument if necessary also. If they're not happy, we'll sort out what we can. We have no intention of delaying passengers unnecessarily. Why would we do that? Passengers are our bread and butter. Every employee in the company, any company for that matter, knows this. It is the safety of the aircraft and its crew and passengers that matter most. Better to leave an hour, two hours or even eight hours late than either not make it, or have to divert and layover for spares and repairs. Prevention is better than cure. As you say, when there's an aircraft shaped hole in the ground, who will be blamed? Certainly not the dirty dozen on the board. |
That's right there not its for some small joint that does paint work Bermil are bulltishing in the advert see APS Ltd The Bermil advert was for senior management staff and the likes and I don't know if it was established if it was for another Fieldair enterprise or indeed in Hamilton. I have certainly heard nothing more within NZ about it so they may just be doing expressions of interest as part of a feasibility study. Another option is that the key APS team in Hamilton, all with Fieldair origins, may possibly be returning to Palmerston North. Have you heard something more about the venture there ? I am sure it will not be targeting wide-body jets wherever it may be. |
16 February 2012 Mr Steve Purvinas Federal Secretary Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association 25 Stoney Creek Road BEXLEY NSW 2207 By Email: [email protected] Dear Steve,RE: Qantas Engineering Restructure· Consultation Today Alan Joyce, Chief Executive Officer, made a series of announcements some of which affect ALAEA covered areas within Qantas Engineering. • Aircraft Airworthiness The Aircraft Airworthiness (AA) division of Qantas Engineering currently operates over two sites, with responsibility for airworthiness of the Boeing 737-800 fleet residing in Melbourne and airworthiness of the remainder of Qantas' fleet types residing in Sydney. A decision has been made to consolidate the Melbourne AA operations into Sydney. As a result of this decision, approximately 90 Melbourne based positions will become redundant as the Melbourne AA operations transition to Sydney. It is anticipated that the transition of AA operations into Sydney will be completed by February 2013. • Supply Chain A decision has been made to consolidate the Qantas Engineering Supply Chain (QESC) Melbourne based support functions into Sydney. As a result of this decision, approximately 60 Melbourne based positions will become redundant as QESC operations transition to Sydney. It is anticipated that the transition of QESC operations into Sydney will take place over the next six to eight months. • Maintenance Operations Centre A decision has been made to consolidate Maintenance Operations Centre (MOC) Melbourne based operations into Sydney. As a result of this decision, approximately 31 Melbourne based positions will become redundant as MOC operations transition to Sydney. It is anticipated that the transition of MOC operations into Sydney will be completed by August 2012. • Line Maintenance Operations - Maintenance on Demand A decision has been made to implement Maintenance on Demand on Qantas' fleet of Airbus 330s and Boeing 737 -800s. No decision has been made in relation to Receipt and Despatch at this stage. As a result of this decision, approximately 30 LAME positions will become redundant. • Line Maintenance Operations - Fleet Reductions and Network Changes Today, Qantas announced the retirement of two Boeing 747-400s, in addition to the four aircraft retirements that were announced in August 201 1. As a result of these decisions, approximately 71 employees across the Sydney Aircraft Maintenance (SAM) and Sydney International Terminal (SIT) business units will become redundant. This number will include both LAMEs and AMEs, and is comprised of: • 30 redundancies as a result of the aircraft retirements announced in August 2011 (you were advised of these redundancies at the time); and • 41 redundancies as a result of the additional aircraft retirements announced today. As discussed with you this morning, we would like to meet with ALAEA representatives as soon as possible in order to establish appropriate consultation arrangements in relation to these decisions, and I will liaise with you or your office to make those arrangements. In addition to the above, Qantas has also announced its intention to consult with relevant unions in relation to its Heavy Maintenance operations, so that any decision made in relation to Qantas' Heavy Maintenance operations can take into account your views. We will discuss this process with you when we meet to discuss the above matters. Sue Bussell EXECUTIVE MANAGER INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS Qantas Airways |
Why does AJ compares aircraft with cars,why not compare with boats
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What The?
Since when is;
$202M EBIT plus $194M lost grounding fleet plus $150M spent fighting unions = $546,000,000 (half a Billion dollars) which is what was earned this half, sound like a record profit to me??? :confused: |
Mate, I don't blame you for being angry. Tulla has been shafted, and I'm sure there's more to come. Still, Sydney Base and terminals are gonna get a bit of a reaming too.
Nervous few days for those of us that are too far from retirement to take a package, but too old to get another job easily..:{ |
Why does AJ compares aircraft with cars,why not compare with boats If you don't maintain your car, who cares? Who ensures that you're maintaining your car to manufacturer's specifications? No one! If you don't maintain your boats or planes, you will run into costly repairs and you can run into trouble with the regulatory bodies. |
Mate, I don't blame you for being angry. Tulla has been shafted, and I'm sure there's more to come. Still, Sydney Base and terminals are gonna get a bit of a reaming too. Nervous few days for those of us that are too far from retirement to take a package, but too old to get another job easily..http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/boohoo.gif Like you dunnocks, not old enough to retire, but too old to just go and get another job. Anyway, I'm sticking around till they push me out the door, or I depart with the last REAL QANTAS aeroplane, be it the OJ, OE, VZ, VX, VY, QP, EB or OQ series aircraft. The TJ and OG aircraft will be long gone by then. |
This Document on Brisbane makes interesting reading now more than ever .http://www.sd.qld.gov.au/dsdweb/docs..._10_qantas.pdf
Where is Mr Mc Dermott now ? |
He was and I think he still is the manager for Finance/planning and other non maintenance departments in Sydney Aircraft Maintenance.
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AJ compares aircraft wit cars
If u look at cars handbook there are more inspection requirement than the older model,so how come aircraft maintenance inspection requirement is less now.
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